[Ads-l] 192 = 1902

ADSGarson O'Toole adsgarsonotoole at GMAIL.COM
Thu Apr 20 01:00:03 UTC 2017


The parallel constructions would be:

1901 -- Nineteen one
1901 -- Nineteen oh one
1901 -- Nineteen hundred one
1901 -- Nineteen hundred and one

2001 -- Twenty one    (I do not think this is very common)
2001 -- Twenty oh one
2001 -- Two thousand one
2001 -- Two thousand and one


On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 8:54 PM, Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at yale.edu> wrote:
> “Two thousand and one” for me, if we’re doing a survey.
>
> LH
>
>> On Apr 19, 2017, at 8:36 PM, Jim Parish <jparish at SIUE.EDU> wrote:
>>
>> I've always pronounced the title "two thousand one".
>>
>> Jim Parish
>>
>> On 4/19/2017 7:31 PM, Jonathan Lighter wrote:
>>> And wasn't the movie title "2001" usu. pronounced as "two thousand and one"?
>>>
>>> JL
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 8:30 PM, Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sounds perfectly normal to me.  I'd say either "Two thousand two" or "two
>>>> thousand and two."
>>>>
>>>> "Twenty oh two" is possible, but I wouldn't say it.
>>>>
>>>> JL
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 5:06 PM, Barretts Mail <mail.barretts at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thank you! I had no idea how to search for that in the archives! BB
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 19 Apr 2017, at 11:05, Ben Zimmer <bgzimmer at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This has come here in the past, as in this 2010 thread:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://listserv.linguistlist.org/pipermail/ads-l/2010-Januar
>>>>> y/095487.html
>>>>>> As I said there, the "nineteen two" formulation seems to have been quite
>>>>>> common -- perhaps the most common way to say the name of the year at the
>>>>>> time. I found evidence for it from class cheers and other sources when I
>>>>>> looked into the matter in aught one:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.usage.english/msg/e8a4080f14289670
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Based on our previous discussion, I think either "nineteen two" or
>>>>>> "nineteen and two" would've been more common at the time than "nineteen
>>>>> oh
>>>>>> two" (or "nineteen aught two" for that matter).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 4:44 PM, Barretts Mail <mail.barretts at gmail.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As recreated in the film “Jackie,” Jackie Kennedy pronounced the year
>>>>>>> “1902” as “19 2” in her 1961 tour of the White House. The original is
>>>>> at
>>>>>>> about 6:30 into the video at https://www.youtube.com/watch?
>>>>> v=CbFt4h3Dkkw <
>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbFt4h3Dkkw>.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I pronounce this as “19 OH 2” and her pronunciation seems odd to me,
>>>>>>> though perhaps it’s a regional or chronolectal thing.
>>>>>>>
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