[Ads-l] Request details of citation in Boston Daily Journal in 1865

Jonathan Lighter wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM
Mon Aug 14 19:35:14 EDT 2017


Garson, the version of _Early American Newspapers_ held by the UT Libraries
appears to include only Series 1, 2, and 3.

No Boston Journal.

JL

On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 6:29 PM, ADSGarson O'Toole <
adsgarsonotoole at gmail.com> wrote:

> JL: Thank you very much for renewing your password and accessing the
> database. It's disappointing that the database holdings were so small
> for the Boston Daily Journal. I will let Dennis Lien know that the
> thoughtful lead he shared did not quite work out.
>
> Dennis also pointed to another database. I wonder if Readex has
> expanded since the description was written.
>
> [Begin excerpt]
> The BOSTON JOURNAL is also available as part of Series 5 of the Readex
> project EARLY AMERICAN NEWSPAPERS, but unfortunately the holdings
> there start with January 1, 1866, so too late for your citation
>
> http://www.readex.com/content/early-american-newspapers-series
> http://titlelist.readex.com/source/servlet/index.html?
> operation=Early%20American%20Newspapers
>
> Early American Newspapers, Series 5, 1777-1922: An Emerging World Power
> Late 19th- and Early 20th-Century Newspapers
> [End excerpt]
>
> Garson
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 5:55 PM, Jonathan Lighter
> <wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Garson, the database American History 1493-1945 appears to have only a
> > single issue of the Boston [Daily] Journal. Very unfortunately, it's the
> > issue for Wednesday. May 11, 1864.
> >
> > A search shows nothing resembling the needed passage.
> >
> > JL
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 9:26 AM, Jonathan Lighter <
> wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Garson, I have access, but it looks as though I'll have to renew my
> >> password - in person.
> >>
> >> Maybe I can do it this afternoon.
> >>
> >> JL
> >>
> >> On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 9:19 AM, ADSGarson O'Toole <
> >> adsgarsonotoole at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Apparently, the Boston Daily Journal in April 1865 is available in a
> >>> database that is part of the Adam Matthew Digital collections. The
> >>> database is called:
> >>>
> >>> American History: 1493-1945 The Gilder Lehrman Collection
> >>>
> >>> This information is courtesy of former librarian Dennis Lien. If your
> >>> organization has access to this database and you wish to help please
> >>> let me know off-list or on-list.
> >>>
> >>> Stephen raises some valuable questions. I haven't tried to identify E.
> K.
> >>>
> >>> Garson
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 7:35 AM, Stephen Goranson <goranson at duke.edu>
> >>> wrote:
> >>> > This quote sounds like Lincoln, as far as I know. I wonder who E.K.
> was
> >>> and why, if he interviewed Lincoln in July 1864, he or she waited until
> >>> April 1865 to write about it. Some later reprintings of the quote call
> E.
> >>> K. a correspondent or, without evidence, a "newspaperman." But a
> reporter
> >>> would likely have already reported an interview, and might have used
> his
> >>> full name. Though there are so many biographies of Lincoln, a quick
> search
> >>> suggests that none have identified E. K., which may be possible. (I
> did not
> >>> find the original newspaper online.) From Massachusetts? A politician?
> A
> >>> minister? Visitor to the White House?...
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > Stephen Goranson
> >>> >
> >>> > http://people.duke.edu/~goranson/
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > ________________________________
> >>> > From: American Dialect Society <ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU> on behalf of
> >>> ADSGarson O'Toole <adsgarsonotoole at GMAIL.COM>
> >>> > Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2017 10:24 AM
> >>> > To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
> >>> > Subject: [ADS-L] Request details of citation in Boston Daily Journal
> in
> >>> 1865
> >>> >
> >>> > Back in July, I received a request from a Wall Street Journal writer
> >>> > via twitter to explore a quotation attributed to Abraham Lincoln. The
> >>> > quotation is popular, e.g., CNN tweeted it on July 4, and the
> >>> > statement is engraved on the wall at the Newseum. Yet, the quotation
> >>> > is slightly inaccurate.
> >>> >
> >>> > [Begin excerpt]
> >>> > Let the people know the facts and the country will be safe.
> >>> > [End excerpt]
> >>> >
> >>> > Barry Popik found a key citation dated April 29, 1865. I pushed the
> >>> > date back to April 21, 1865. Both of these citations pointed to an
> >>> > origin in the Boston Journal.
> >>> >
> >>> > Historian Yoni Appelbaum then located the earliest citation in Boston
> >>> > Daily Journal on April 17, 1865, and he tweeted an image.
> >>> >
> >>> > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__twitter
> >>> .com_YAppelbaum_status_882564306239451137&d=DwIBaQ&c=imBPVzF
> >>> 25OnBgGmVOlcsiEgHoG1i6YHLR0Sj_gZ4adc&r=uUVa-8oDL2EzfbuMuowoU
> >>> adHHcJ7pjul6iFkS5Pd--8&m=A-9jPdp0K2iQNBw0Y0H9EhKSnPAeezJ9YGp
> >>> D66JDLxg&s=ca__bTK08DJs9TSB0hEX2fq9yNIbots648R2qUAu7vM&e=
> >>> > [https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DD9_iZhXUAAIqKR.jpg:large]<http
> >>> s://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__twitter.
> >>> com_YAppelbaum_status_882564306239451137&d=DwIBaQ&c=imBPVzF2
> >>> 5OnBgGmVOlcsiEgHoG1i6YHLR0Sj_gZ4adc&r=uUVa-8oDL2EzfbuMuowoU
> >>> adHHcJ7pjul6iFkS5Pd--8&m=A-9jPdp0K2iQNBw0Y0H9EhKSnPAeezJ9YGp
> >>> D66JDLxg&s=ca__bTK08DJs9TSB0hEX2fq9yNIbots648R2qUAu7vM&e=>
> >>> >
> >>> > Yoni Appelbaum on Twitter<https://urldefense.pro
> >>> ofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__twitter.com_YAppelbaum_status
> >>> _882564306239451137&d=DwIBaQ&c=imBPVzF25OnBgGmVOlcsiEgHoG1i
> >>> 6YHLR0Sj_gZ4adc&r=uUVa-8oDL2EzfbuMuowoUadHHcJ7pjul6iFkS5Pd--
> >>> 8&m=A-9jPdp0K2iQNBw0Y0H9EhKSnPAeezJ9YGpD66JDLxg&s=ca__bTK08D
> >>> Js9TSB0hEX2fq9yNIbots648R2qUAu7vM&e=>
> >>> > urldefense.proofpoint.com
> >>> > “@QuoteResearch @terryteachout @bdomenech Oh, that’s very well done.
> >>> The original ran in the Boston Daily Journal, April 17, signed “E.K."”
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > [Begin excerpt]
> >>> > "I have faith in the people. They will not consent to disunion. The
> >>> > danger is, that they are misled. Let them know the truth and the
> >>> > country is safe."
> >>> > [End except]
> >>> >
> >>> > What database contains the page images for in the Boston Daily
> Journal
> >>> > citation? Alternatively, if someone could send me a PDF or jpg of the
> >>> > page containing the quotation I would be most grateful. Thanks.
> >>> >
> >>> > Garson
> >>> > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.
> >>> americandialect.org&d=DwIBaQ&c=imBPVzF25OnBgGmVOlcsiEgHoG1i
> >>> 6YHLR0Sj_gZ4adc&r=uUVa-8oDL2EzfbuMuowoUadHHcJ7pjul6iFkS5Pd--
> >>> 8&m=A-9jPdp0K2iQNBw0Y0H9EhKSnPAeezJ9YGpD66JDLxg&s=vlj2ICAKMA
> >>> pOBm6IGESrH8asQHYCn9CP1C-GD0POWzw&e=>
> >>> >
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