[Ads-l] Request details of citation in Boston Daily Journal in 1865

Tue Aug 15 03:00:27 UTC 2017

Thanks for looking, George.

Chronicling America has an entry for the newspaper.
http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn84022618/holdings/

It appears that some libraries around the country have it. Here are a few:

HOLDING: Duke Univ Libr, Durham, NC
<1866:10:6-1867:12:23>

HOLDING: Boston Athenaeum, Boston, MA
<1845:4:1-1865:8:28>

HOLDING: Dartmouth Col, Hanover, NH
<1864:1:1-1866:12:31>

Garson

On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 10:25 PM, George Thompson
<george.thompson at nyu.edu> wrote:
> EAN/AHN, series 5, has a file of the Boston Daily Journal beginning with
> 1866 (vol. XXXIII).
>
> GAT
>
> On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 7:35 PM, Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Garson, the version of _Early American Newspapers_ held by the UT Libraries
>> appears to include only Series 1, 2, and 3.
>>
>> No Boston Journal.
>>
>> JL
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 6:29 PM, ADSGarson O'Toole <
>> adsgarsonotoole at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > JL: Thank you very much for renewing your password and accessing the
>> > database. It's disappointing that the database holdings were so small
>> > for the Boston Daily Journal. I will let Dennis Lien know that the
>> > thoughtful lead he shared did not quite work out.
>> >
>> > Dennis also pointed to another database. I wonder if Readex has
>> > expanded since the description was written.
>> >
>> > [Begin excerpt]
>> > The BOSTON JOURNAL is also available as part of Series 5 of the Readex
>> > project EARLY AMERICAN NEWSPAPERS, but unfortunately the holdings
>> > there start with January 1, 1866, so too late for your citation
>> >
>> > http://www.readex.com/content/early-american-newspapers-series
>> > http://titlelist.readex.com/source/servlet/index.html?
>> > operation=Early%20American%20Newspapers
>> >
>> > Early American Newspapers, Series 5, 1777-1922: An Emerging World Power
>> > Late 19th- and Early 20th-Century Newspapers
>> > [End excerpt]
>> >
>> > Garson
>> >
>> >
>> > On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 5:55 PM, Jonathan Lighter
>> > <wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > Garson, the database American History 1493-1945 appears to have only a
>> > > single issue of the Boston [Daily] Journal. Very unfortunately, it's
>> the
>> > > issue for Wednesday. May 11, 1864.
>> > >
>> > > A search shows nothing resembling the needed passage.
>> > >
>> > > JL
>> > >
>> > > On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 9:26 AM, Jonathan Lighter <
>> > wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com>
>> > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> Garson, I have access, but it looks as though I'll have to renew my
>> > >> password - in person.
>> > >>
>> > >> Maybe I can do it this afternoon.
>> > >>
>> > >> JL
>> > >>
>> > >> On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 9:19 AM, ADSGarson O'Toole <
>> > >> adsgarsonotoole at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >>> Apparently, the Boston Daily Journal in April 1865 is available in a
>> > >>> database that is part of the Adam Matthew Digital collections. The
>> > >>> database is called:
>> > >>>
>> > >>> American History: 1493-1945 The Gilder Lehrman Collection
>> > >>>
>> > >>> This information is courtesy of former librarian Dennis Lien. If your
>> > >>> organization has access to this database and you wish to help please
>> > >>> let me know off-list or on-list.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Stephen raises some valuable questions. I haven't tried to identify
>> E.
>> > K.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Garson
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>> On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 7:35 AM, Stephen Goranson <goranson at duke.edu
>> >
>> > >>> wrote:
>> > >>> > This quote sounds like Lincoln, as far as I know. I wonder who E.K.
>> > was
>> > >>> and why, if he interviewed Lincoln in July 1864, he or she waited
>> until
>> > >>> April 1865 to write about it. Some later reprintings of the quote
>> call
>> > E.
>> > >>> K. a correspondent or, without evidence, a "newspaperman." But a
>> > reporter
>> > >>> would likely have already reported an interview, and might have used
>> > his
>> > >>> full name. Though there are so many biographies of Lincoln, a quick
>> > search
>> > >>> suggests that none have identified E. K., which may be possible. (I
>> > did not
>> > >>> find the original newspaper online.) From Massachusetts? A
>> politician?
>> > A
>> > >>> minister? Visitor to the White House?...
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> > Stephen Goranson
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> > http://people.duke.edu/~goranson/
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> > ________________________________
>> > >>> > From: American Dialect Society <ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU> on behalf
>> of
>> > >>> ADSGarson O'Toole <adsgarsonotoole at GMAIL.COM>
>> > >>> > Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2017 10:24 AM
>> > >>> > To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
>> > >>> > Subject: [ADS-L] Request details of citation in Boston Daily
>> Journal
>> > in
>> > >>> 1865
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> > Back in July, I received a request from a Wall Street Journal
>> writer
>> > >>> > via twitter to explore a quotation attributed to Abraham Lincoln.
>> The
>> > >>> > quotation is popular, e.g., CNN tweeted it on July 4, and the
>> > >>> > statement is engraved on the wall at the Newseum. Yet, the
>> quotation
>> > >>> > is slightly inaccurate.
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> > [Begin excerpt]
>> > >>> > Let the people know the facts and the country will be safe.
>> > >>> > [End excerpt]
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> > Barry Popik found a key citation dated April 29, 1865. I pushed the
>> > >>> > date back to April 21, 1865. Both of these citations pointed to an
>> > >>> > origin in the Boston Journal.
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> > Historian Yoni Appelbaum then located the earliest citation in
>> Boston
>> > >>> > Daily Journal on April 17, 1865, and he tweeted an image.
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__twitter
>> > >>> .com_YAppelbaum_status_882564306239451137&d=DwIBaQ&c=imBPVzF
>> > >>> 25OnBgGmVOlcsiEgHoG1i6YHLR0Sj_gZ4adc&r=uUVa-8oDL2EzfbuMuowoU
>> > >>> adHHcJ7pjul6iFkS5Pd--8&m=A-9jPdp0K2iQNBw0Y0H9EhKSnPAeezJ9YGp
>> > >>> D66JDLxg&s=ca__bTK08DJs9TSB0hEX2fq9yNIbots648R2qUAu7vM&e=
>> > >>> > [https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DD9_iZhXUAAIqKR.jpg:large]<http
>> > >>> s://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__twitter.
>> > >>> com_YAppelbaum_status_882564306239451137&d=DwIBaQ&c=imBPVzF2
>> > >>> 5OnBgGmVOlcsiEgHoG1i6YHLR0Sj_gZ4adc&r=uUVa-8oDL2EzfbuMuowoU
>> > >>> adHHcJ7pjul6iFkS5Pd--8&m=A-9jPdp0K2iQNBw0Y0H9EhKSnPAeezJ9YGp
>> > >>> D66JDLxg&s=ca__bTK08DJs9TSB0hEX2fq9yNIbots648R2qUAu7vM&e=>
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> > Yoni Appelbaum on Twitter<https://urldefense.pro
>> > >>> ofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__twitter.com_YAppelbaum_status
>> > >>> _882564306239451137&d=DwIBaQ&c=imBPVzF25OnBgGmVOlcsiEgHoG1i
>> > >>> 6YHLR0Sj_gZ4adc&r=uUVa-8oDL2EzfbuMuowoUadHHcJ7pjul6iFkS5Pd--
>> > >>> 8&m=A-9jPdp0K2iQNBw0Y0H9EhKSnPAeezJ9YGpD66JDLxg&s=ca__bTK08D
>> > >>> Js9TSB0hEX2fq9yNIbots648R2qUAu7vM&e=>
>> > >>> > urldefense.proofpoint.com
>> > >>> > “@QuoteResearch @terryteachout @bdomenech Oh, that’s very well
>> done.
>> > >>> The original ran in the Boston Daily Journal, April 17, signed
>> “E.K."”
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> > [Begin excerpt]
>> > >>> > "I have faith in the people. They will not consent to disunion. The
>> > >>> > danger is, that they are misled. Let them know the truth and the
>> > >>> > country is safe."
>> > >>> > [End except]
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> > What database contains the page images for in the Boston Daily
>> > Journal
>> > >>> > citation? Alternatively, if someone could send me a PDF or jpg of
>> the
>> > >>> > page containing the quotation I would be most grateful. Thanks.
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> > Garson
>> > >>> > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.
>> > >>> americandialect.org&d=DwIBaQ&c=imBPVzF25OnBgGmVOlcsiEgHoG1i
>> > >>> 6YHLR0Sj_gZ4adc&r=uUVa-8oDL2EzfbuMuowoUadHHcJ7pjul6iFkS5Pd--
>> > >>> 8&m=A-9jPdp0K2iQNBw0Y0H9EhKSnPAeezJ9YGpD66JDLxg&s=vlj2ICAKMA
>> > >>> pOBm6IGESrH8asQHYCn9CP1C-GD0POWzw&e=>
>> > >>> >
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