[Ads-l] "Alternative facts" for EOTY

[Jonathan Lighter]

The point, Ben, is that it *is* on the Fox News site.

JL

On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 1:20 PM, Ben Zimmer <bgzimmer at gmail.com> wrote:

> That's a syndicated Associated Press report, even if it's on the Fox News
> site.
>
> On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 1:03 PM, Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Fox News reports on the President's documentation of the size of his
> crowd:
> >
> > http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/01/21/fact-check-trump-
> > overstates-crowd-size-at-inaugural.html
> >
> > JL
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 12:25 PM, Joel Berson <berson at att.net> wrote:
> >
> > > "Fact"?
> > >
> > > Joel
> > >
> > >
> > >       From: Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM>
> > >  To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
> > >  Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2017 9:28 AM
> > >  Subject: Re: [ADS-L] "Alternative facts" for EOTY
> > >
> > > Perh. cf. the threads on "fact" = 'nonfact.'
> > >
> > > PS: Madonna uses the F-word. Stop the presses!
> > >
> > > JL
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 8:59 AM, Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at yale.edu
> >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Oops, sorry, Stephen.  I failed to notice your message before I
> posted
> > > > similarly just now.  And of course, there’s also the point that the
> > > > “lie”/“not really a fact” in question below was the same one being
> > > > referenced today, about the millions of illegal immigrants who voted
> > (as
> > > > proved by the facts “people believe they have...to back that up”)
> just
> > to
> > > > deny Trump the landslide popular vote victory he richly deserved.
> > > >
> > > > LH
> > > >
> > > > > On Jan 24, 2017, at 5:00 AM, Stephen Goranson <goranson at DUKE.EDU>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Whatever Conway meant, it reminded me of a Trump supporter, Scottie
> > > Nell
> > > > Hughes, on the Diane Rehm Show last Nov. 30. Below is part of the
> > > > transcript. The context is available at
> > > > > http://thedianerehmshow.org/shows/2016-11-30/how-
> > > > journalists-are-rethinking-their-role-under-a-trump-presidency
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > [....]
> > > > >
> > > > >  *
> > > > > 10:22:31
> > > > >
> > > > > HUGHESWell, I think it's also an idea of an opinion. And that's --
> on
> > > > one hand I hear half the media saying that these are lies, but on the
> > > other
> > > > half there are many people that go, no, it's true. And so one thing
> > that
> > > > has been interesting this entire campaign season to watch is that
> > people
> > > > that say facts are facts, they're not really facts. Everybody has a
> > way,
> > > > it's kind of like looking at ratings or looking at a glass of
> half-full
> > > > water. Everybody has a way of interpreting them to be the truth or
> not
> > > true.
> > > > >
> > > > >  *
> > > > >    *
> > > > > 10:23:00
> > > > >
> > > > > HUGHESThere's no such thing, unfortunately, anymore of facts. And
> so
> > > Mr.
> > > > Trump's tweet amongst a certain crowd, a large -- a large part of the
> > > > population, are truth. When he says that millions of people illegally
> > > > voted, he has some -- in his -- amongst him and his supporters, and
> > > people
> > > > believe they have facts to back that up. Those that do not like Mr.
> > > Trump,
> > > > they say that those are lies, and there's no facts to back it up.
> So...
> > > > >
> > > > > [....]
> > > > >  *
> > > > >    *
> > > > > 10:25:36
> > > > >
> > > > > HUGHESBut because in many states you can mail things in, those were
> > --
> > > > so yes, there is facts to back up what I said and why Trump
> supporters
> > > > believe it. You are wrong, sir. [....]
> > > > >
> > > > >
> >
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