[Ads-l] "Alternative facts" for EOTY

[Jonathan Lighter]

Sean Spicer explains officially that  Mr. Trump's knowledge of massive
voter fraud perpetrated against him comes from "studies and information
that he has. ...It's a belief he maintains."


JL

On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 1:21 PM, Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> The point, Ben, is that it *is* on the Fox News site.
>
> JL
>
> On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 1:20 PM, Ben Zimmer <bgzimmer at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> That's a syndicated Associated Press report, even if it's on the Fox News
>> site.
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 1:03 PM, Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com
>> >
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Fox News reports on the President's documentation of the size of his
>> crowd:
>> >
>> > http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/01/21/fact-check-trump-
>> > overstates-crowd-size-at-inaugural.html
>> >
>> > JL
>> >
>> > On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 12:25 PM, Joel Berson <berson at att.net> wrote:
>> >
>> > > "Fact"?
>> > >
>> > > Joel
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >       From: Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM>
>> > >  To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
>> > >  Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2017 9:28 AM
>> > >  Subject: Re: [ADS-L] "Alternative facts" for EOTY
>> > >
>> > > Perh. cf. the threads on "fact" = 'nonfact.'
>> > >
>> > > PS: Madonna uses the F-word. Stop the presses!
>> > >
>> > > JL
>> > >
>> > > On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 8:59 AM, Laurence Horn <
>> laurence.horn at yale.edu>
>> > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Oops, sorry, Stephen.  I failed to notice your message before I
>> posted
>> > > > similarly just now.  And of course, there’s also the point that the
>> > > > “lie”/“not really a fact” in question below was the same one being
>> > > > referenced today, about the millions of illegal immigrants who voted
>> > (as
>> > > > proved by the facts “people believe they have...to back that up”)
>> just
>> > to
>> > > > deny Trump the landslide popular vote victory he richly deserved.
>> > > >
>> > > > LH
>> > > >
>> > > > > On Jan 24, 2017, at 5:00 AM, Stephen Goranson <goranson at DUKE.EDU>
>> > > wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Whatever Conway meant, it reminded me of a Trump supporter,
>> Scottie
>> > > Nell
>> > > > Hughes, on the Diane Rehm Show last Nov. 30. Below is part of the
>> > > > transcript. The context is available at
>> > > > > http://thedianerehmshow.org/shows/2016-11-30/how-
>> > > > journalists-are-rethinking-their-role-under-a-trump-presidency
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > [....]
>> > > > >
>> > > > >  *
>> > > > > 10:22:31
>> > > > >
>> > > > > HUGHESWell, I think it's also an idea of an opinion. And that's
>> -- on
>> > > > one hand I hear half the media saying that these are lies, but on
>> the
>> > > other
>> > > > half there are many people that go, no, it's true. And so one thing
>> > that
>> > > > has been interesting this entire campaign season to watch is that
>> > people
>> > > > that say facts are facts, they're not really facts. Everybody has a
>> > way,
>> > > > it's kind of like looking at ratings or looking at a glass of
>> half-full
>> > > > water. Everybody has a way of interpreting them to be the truth or
>> not
>> > > true.
>> > > > >
>> > > > >  *
>> > > > >    *
>> > > > > 10:23:00
>> > > > >
>> > > > > HUGHESThere's no such thing, unfortunately, anymore of facts. And
>> so
>> > > Mr.
>> > > > Trump's tweet amongst a certain crowd, a large -- a large part of
>> the
>> > > > population, are truth. When he says that millions of people
>> illegally
>> > > > voted, he has some -- in his -- amongst him and his supporters, and
>> > > people
>> > > > believe they have facts to back that up. Those that do not like Mr.
>> > > Trump,
>> > > > they say that those are lies, and there's no facts to back it up.
>> So...
>> > > > >
>> > > > > [....]
>> > > > >  *
>> > > > >    *
>> > > > > 10:25:36
>> > > > >
>> > > > > HUGHESBut because in many states you can mail things in, those
>> were
>> > --
>> > > > so yes, there is facts to back up what I said and why Trump
>> supporters
>> > > > believe it. You are wrong, sir. [....]
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> >
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