[Ads-l] newly "offensive" term

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About 15 years ago, while reading comments to an article on line, I
stumbled upon one of them. The commenter wrote, that if Dr. Thomas Sowell
(who is former Milton Friedman's student)  would have been nominated as a
candidate for President of the USA, he would crawl over the broken glass or
hot coals to vote for him. After reading a dozen of Dr. Sowell's books (he
published over 40 in total) and a few hundred of his articles, I would
follow that commenter. Unfortunately, Dr. Sowell never had intention to
apply for that position, and even decided to stop publishing weekly
articles at the age 86. His friend (economist as well) and professor at the
George Mason University, Dr. Walter E. Williams, is 81, but he's still
writing and teaching. I am absolutely sure that neither would complain
about anything chain-related. But both of them are wise, brilliant, honest,
and decent men who never tried to buy votes.

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On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 5:51 PM, Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com>
wrote:

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> Poster:       Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM>
> Subject:      Re: newly "offensive" term
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> > people who make a frequent search for something new to be offended by.
>
> Like me, for example. I'm offended by white politicians who patronizingly
> assume that millions of black people think alike and, what's more, are (or
> ought to be) offended to the point of distraction ("It's obscene!") by the
> mere juxtaposition of the words "chain" and "migration."
>
> We've had earlier discussion about harmless terms and turns of phrase
> deemed "obviously" racist by self-appointed etymologists and others.
>
> JL
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 4:02 PM, David Wilton <dave at wilton.net> wrote:
>
> > "The term 'chain migration' has itself assumed vague racial undertones
> th=
> at
> > imply Third World hordes clamoring at the gates."
> >
> > Lochhead, Carolyn. "Senate Swayed by Analyst's Immigrant Count." San
> > Francisco Chronicle, 20 June 2006, A1.
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: American Dialect Society [mailto:ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf
> > Of
> > Bill Mullins
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 1:53 PM
> > To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
> > Subject: Re: [ADS-L] newly "offensive" term
> >
> > Can anyone provide any citations that antedate Sen Durbin's comments of
> J=
> an
> > 12 for someone asserting that "chain migration" is a racist term (or
> even=
>  a
> > problematic one) because it calls to mind the slaves brought over in
> > chains?
> > Lots (hundreds and hundreds) of tweets containing "chain migration" +
> > "racist term" since Jan 12; only a handful before then (and they don't
> ma=
> ke
> > the connection between the term and slave chains).
> >
> > For that matter, can anyone provide any citations for asserting "chain
> > migration" is a problematic term for any reason at all before the Trump
> > campaign?
> >
> > I've looked reasonably hard (in detailed searches in ProQuest and other
> > databases and archives), and am having trouble finding such.  And this
> > makes
> > me think that, given its long uncontroversial usage (the term being
> > uncontroversial, not the actual immigration or the policies about it)
> whe=
> n
> > discussing immigration, that the term itself isn't particularly
> > "totalitarian" or racist or otherwise bad, but that asserting that it is,
> > is
> > a way of showing that you don't like Trump's proposed immigration
> policie=
> s.
> > As Peter has more eloquently suggested.
> >
> > (and the idea that 10th grade German classes on the rhetoric of
> > totalitarianism are a proper and appropriate touchstone for consideration
> > of
> > American usage of American terms being discussed on the listserv of the
> > American Dialect Society seems a little, well, odd)
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: American Dialect Society [mailto:ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On
> > > Behalf Of Peter Reitan
> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 6:42 PM
> > > To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
> > > Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: newly "offensive" term
> > >
> > >
> > > My point was to express surprise at how obvious you found the sinister
> > > connotation and evil rhetorical intent was.  It seemed very non-
> obviou=
> s
> > to me.
> > >
> > >
> > > I am also surprised at your suggestion that it "couldn't possibly"
> > > have the literal meaning I generally understand it to have, despite
> you=
> r
> > apparent openness to the possibility that it might have that meaning "on
> > some literal level."
> > >
> > >
> > > I generally have understood in in the more literal way, chain reaction
> > > sense, as it has been used and understood for at least fifty years.
> > > But of course the word is relatively new to me, so I just understood
> > > it the way it sounded and was described.  I didn't think to consult my
> > > 10th grade Nazi propoganda textbook - until, that is, I read other
> > articles explaining the "real", non-obvious meaning to me.  But before
> th=
> e
> > new meaning was revealed to me a few weeks ago, I generally understood it
> > in
> > line with its non-controversial use over the past several decades, to
> > describe chain reaction in immigration where one migration leads to
> anoth=
> er
> > and then another like links in a chain.
> > >
> > >
> > > In the 1950s, "chain migration" was used to describe white families
> > > moving into the Northern suburbs of Chicago in the face of black
> famili=
> es
> > moving into the southeastern portion of North Chicago:
> > >
> > >
> > > Chicago Tribune, April 24, 1955, page E 6. "A chain migration - from
> > > the Loop northward - is taking place on the north side and into the
> > > north suburbs, accelerating the suburban growth, the survey indicates.
> > > As minority groups push northward into the southeastern part of the
> nor=
> th
> > area - . . . the middle income families in this area are moving north and
> > northwestward, replacing larger income families who resided on the
> northe=
> rn
> > outskirts of the city."
> > >
> > > [END]
> > >
> > >
> > > In 1963, Charles Price used the term in a book about the patterns of
> > > Southern European immigration into Australia, as described in an
> articl=
> e
> > about the book and its findings in an Australian newspaper:
> > >
> > >
> > > Sydney Morning Herald, September 2, 1963, page 2. "Why should almost
> > > half the southern European population of Sydney and Melbourne during
> > > the 1930s and 1940s have been engaged in small catering businesses -
> > > cafes, milk bars, fruit shops and fish shops? . . . National character
> > > and tradition may . . . have played a part, but the pheonomenon owed as
> > much, if not more, to chain migrtion.  'The strong tendency for those
> > coming
> > out with the aid of friends and relatives to adopt the same occupations
> a=
> s
> > their sponsors,' writes Dr. Price, 'can mean that a few large migration
> > chains dominate the settlement pattern of a whole nationality.'"
> > >
> > > [END]
> > >
> > >
> > > In 1985, the expression was used to describe Greek immigration to
> Hawai=
> i:
> > >
> > >
> > > Honolulu Star-Bulletin, February 19, 1985, page 12. "The Greeks began
> > > migrating to Hawaii through "chain migration."  Chain migration is a
> > phenomena which occurs when one family member settles in an area and
> begi=
> ns
> > sending for relatives."
> > >
> > > [END]
> > >
> > >
> > > Again in 1985, the expression was used during the debate surrounding
> > > what would become the Reagan "amnesty".  This one, I guess, most
> closel=
> y
> > describes how I understand it, and how I understand it when I hear it
> use=
> d
> > in the Caution-news:
> > >
> > >
> > > Camden [NJ] Courier-Post, June 4, 1985, page 10.  "Past amnesty
> > > proposals have drawn considerable opposition from a broad spectrum of
> > > Americans because they would reward lawbreakers, be unfair to those
> > > who wait to come in legally, raise the prospect of future amnesty
> > programs, and set off a patern of chain migration.  Millions of legalized
> > aliens, once citizenship is gained, could petition to bring in relatives,
> > who once they become citizens, could seek admission of their relatives."
> > >
> > > [END]
> > >
> > >
> > > During the 1990s, the expression was used in conjunction with
> > > recommendations by the U. S. Commission on Immigration Reform, chaired
> =
> by
> > former Democratic congresswoman from Texas, Barbara Jordan:
> > >
> > >
> > > Anniston [Alabama] Star, June 8, 1995, page 8.  "Jordan said the
> > > commission's plan was the only way to reunite the nuclear families of
> > legal residents, and Smith added that it will end "chain migration" by
> th=
> e
> > extended families of immigrants."
> > >
> > > [END]
> > >
> > >
> > > So, yeah, I was surprised that the new, meaning based on a supposed
> > connotation with rhetorical value was considered so obvious.
> > > Ironically, however, those who probably get the most rhetorical value
> > from
> > the sinister interpretation are those who oppose reform.
> > >
> > >
> > > I think the Nazis have a word that describes the intentional twisting
> > > of the obvious, well-established, natural, neutral meaning of a term
> in=
> to
> > something sinister in order to influence their minions into disliking the
> > object of their derision while avoiding a substantive policy debate.
> > > Uebermeinungaenderungvergnuegen, perhaps?
> > >
> > >
> > > But I could be wrong.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: American Dialect Society <ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU> on behalf of
> > > Chris Waigl <chris at LASCRIBE.NET>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 2:29 PM
> > > To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
> > > Subject: Re: newly "offensive" term
> > >
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> > > Poster:       Chris Waigl <chris at LASCRIBE.NET>
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> > > Hi Peter,
> > >
> > > On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 1:25 PM, Peter Reitan <pjreitan at hotmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > "Instantly stood out"?
> > > >
> > >
> > >  Yes, that's what I wrote. Is it unclear?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > Because it couldn't possibly mean that one person lets in one close
> > > > relative, who then lets in another close relative, who then lets in
> > > > an in-law, who then lets in someone three degreesremoved from the
> > > > first person - like a series of links in a chain.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > No, it couldn't mean that, for two reasons. The first is that the
> figur=
> e
> > that accompanied the term was that of a tree structure.
> > > The Nazi term =C3=9Cberfremdung sprang to mind; second, because that's
> =
> not how
> > immigration works.
> > >
> > > And even if it "meant" that on some literal level, there's connotation
> > and
> > rhetorical value.
> > >
> > > Chris
> > > unclear what your point is TBH
> > >
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