[Ads-l] a different take on "chain migration"
Dan Goncharoff
thegonch at GMAIL.COM
Fri Feb 23 13:30:34 UTC 2018
I wouldn't use either word, but what I know about using them comes from
"Blazing Saddles". The n-word carries an implied threat of violence when
used by a white person against a black person. The h-word does not, so the
threat has to be made clear.
What I don't understand is why we are still arguing about this after 44
years...
On Feb 23, 2018 2:51 AM, "Wilson Gray" <hwgray at gmail.com> wrote:
> "I'm upset that on television blacks can call themselves or each other
> 'nigger' but _I can't say it_ unless I'm packing."
>
> Bullshit. White privilege allows a white person to say "nigger, kike, spic,
> dago," and any other slur whenever and wherever he pleases, just as male
> privilege allows any man to say "cunt, twat, pussy," etc. under the same
> social "constraints."
>
> BTW, I once asked the list why it is that white people *want* to call black
> people "niggers" and I got no reply. So, let me re-phrase my question. Why
> is it that _you_, Paul Johnson, want to call black people "niggers,"
> despite the fact that you know full well that black people don't like to be
> called "niggers" by white people?
>
> > can they under that protocol, are they proscribed from calling whites
> 'honkys'*
>
> Since there is no such protocol, of course not. Besides, there's no point
> in doing that. Once that a non-white has said that a person is white, any
> other descriptor is superfluous, as your comment amply demonstrates.
>
> As Garson quoted a couple of years ago,
>
> "When You’re Accustomed to Privilege, Equality Feels Like Oppression"
>
> The word is one invented by white people as a slur against other white
> people: _hunky_. Spelling it "honky" is like re-spelling in eye-phonetics
> _funky_ as "fonky" or _donkey_ as "dunky" and then characterizing them as
> novel words heretofore unknown to the English language.
>
> On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 7:38 PM, paul johnson <paulzjoh at mtnhome.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I'm upset that on television blacks can call themselves or each other
> > 'nigger' but I can't say it unless I'm packing. Curious, can they under
> > that protocol, are they proscribed from calling whites 'honkys'
> >
> >
> >
> > On 2/22/2018 6:29 PM, W Brewer wrote:
> >
> >> Wonder who pulled her chain.
> >>
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> > --
> > I'm not saying you're stupid, just that you have bad luck when
> thinking...
> >
> >
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>
>
> --
> -Wilson
> -----
> All say, "How hard it is that we have to die!"---a strange complaint to
> come from the mouths of people who have had to live.
> -Mark Twain
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