[Ads-l] Joan of Arc Quote

[Margaret Winters]

It is certainly modern French - I was interested in the fact that it appears on tee shirts and tattoos!


Happy New Year again to all,

Margaret


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MARGARET E WINTERS
Former Provost
Professor Emerita - French and Linguistics
Wayne State University
Detroit, MI  48202

mewinters at wayne.edu



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From: American Dialect Society <ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU> on behalf of Wilson Gray <hwgray at GMAIL.COM>
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Subject: Re: Joan of Arc Quote

> The original in French is: "Je n'ai pas peur des soldats, car ma route m'
a été ouverte, et si les > soldats viennent, j'ai Dieu, mon Seigneur, qui
saura comment libérer la route qui mène à        > Sieur le Dauphin. C'est
pour cela que je fus nais."

This is contemporary French. Surely, these aren't the actual words of
Jehanne la pucelle. They're at best a translation into the current
language. Or is that all that's being sought?

On Fri, Dec 29, 2017 at 12:08 PM, Margaret Winters <mewinters at wayne.edu>
wrote:

> I tried to find a dating for the quote, without success, but came across
> both this site for a teeshirt with it on and other sites where a tattoo
> design was offered...
>
> Just for general wonderment, I'll pass this on.
>
> Happy New Year to all,
> Margaret
>
>
>
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> begin her mission to save France she was asked by a women: "How can you
> make such a journey when on all sides are soldiers?" to which Joan
> responded: "I do not fear the soldiers, for my road is made open to me; and
> if the soldiers come, I have God, my Lord, who will know how to clear the
> route that leads to messire the Dauphin. It was for this that I was born!"
> The original in French is: "Je n'ai pas peur des soldats, car ma route m' a
> été ouverte, et si les soldats viennent, j'ai Dieu, mon Seigneur, qui saura
> comment libérer la route qui mène à Sieur le Dauphin. C'est pour cela que
> je fus nais." (http://www.maidofheaven.com/joanofarc_quote_I_am_not_
> afraid.asp)
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> MARGARET E WINTERS
> Former Provost
> Professor Emerita - French and Linguistics
> Wayne State University
> Detroit, MI  48202
>
> mewinters at wayne.edu
>
>
>
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> From: American Dialect Society <ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU> on behalf of
> Shapiro, Fred <fred.shapiro at YALE.EDU>
> Sent: Friday, December 22, 2017 5:07 PM
> To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
> Subject: Joan of Arc Quote
>
> Joan of Arc's most famous quotation appears to be "I am not afraid, for
> God is with me.  I was born for this [sometimes worded 'I was born to do
> this']."  These of course are English translations.  The quote is said to
> have been uttered when she left the town of Vancouleurs in February or
> March of 1429.
>
>
> I would welcome any help in determining the earliest findable source for
> this.  The earliest findable source for the French original would be best,
> but the earliest findable source for the English translation would also be
> very helpful.
>
>
> Fred Shapiro
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