[Ads-l] RES: Bugs Bunny coins "Nimrod"?

[Laurence Horn]

> On Oct 11, 2018, at 2:35 PM, David Daniel <dad at COARSECOURSES.COM> wrote:
> 
> So I tried to check out the video on YouTube at the link Wilson sent and it
> says "Video Unavailable." Did that happen like in the last hour or two? I
> ask as it seems that some of you were able to watch it.
> DAD

Curiouser and curiouser.  I watched it (well, as much as I could take) after Wilson’s message first posted (not a middle!), but now it’s unavailable.  
> 
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> sender:       American Dialect Society <ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
> Poster:       Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM>
> Subject:      Re: Bugs Bunny coins "Nimrod"?
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> Wikipedia notes that this 1941 cartoon was suppressed as racist "in 1968."
> (Elmer Fudd had first appeared with that name in 1940).
> 
> FWIW, I began watching Bugs Bunny cartoons on Channel 5 in NYC in 1957 or
> '58, and this particular one was never shown - then or later. This is the
> first time I've seen it.
> 
> JL
> 
> On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 1:20 PM Wilson Gray <hwgray at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>>> Elmer Fudd
>> 
>> He used to be a colored fellow, before he came to his senses.
>> 
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DP0z7oZ0jzQs
>> On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 12:11 PM Andy Bach <afbach at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> According to "Now You Know" and WikiP, Chuck Jones et alia are the actu=
> al
>>> coiners of the idiot version:
>>> " The word =E2=80=9Cnimrod=E2=80=9D is commonly used to describe someon=
> e who is acting
>> like
>>> a doofus, but the word originally meant the opposite. =E2=80=9CNimrod=
> =E2=80=9D originally
>>> comes from the name of a biblical Egyptian king who was widely regarded
>> as
>>> a skilled hunter. But, according to Wikipedia
>>> <
>> https://nowiknow.us1.list-manage.com/track/click?u=3D2889002ad89d45ca21f5=
> 0ba46&id=3Daefcd20163&e=3D33dbfa3b8f
>>> ,
>>> Bugs Bunny (yes, the iconic cartoon character) used the term
>> sarcastically
>>> in reference to hapless hunter Elmer Fudd. Viewers didn=E2=80=99t pick =
> up the
>>> sarcasm and the meaning of the term reversed. "
>>> 
>>> WikiP cites "Garner's Modern American Usage":
>>> 
>> https://books.google.com/books?id=3DmVcJqKs1isUC&pg=3DPR53#v=3Donepage&q&=
> f=3Dfalse
>>> 
>>> Though they also cite the "Dictionary of Jewish Usage"
>>> 
>> https://books.google.com/books?id=3DNk_RFL9LYg0C&pg=3DPA126#v=3Donepage&q=
> &f=3Dfalse
>>> 
>>> which says it was in use as meaning "maroon" (said to be Bugs'
>>> pronunciation of "moron", not referring to Maroons, runaway slaves (whi=
> ch
>>> the Straight Dope differs:
>>> https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/archive/index.php/t-25808.html
>>> )) is noted as far back as the 1930s
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> 
>>> a
>>> 
>>> Andy Bach,
>>> afbach at gmail.com
>>> 608 658-1890 cell
>>> 608 261-5738 wk
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>> 
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>> -Wilson
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