[Ads-l] RES: Bugs Bunny coins "Nimrod"?

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On 11 Oct 2018, at 11:53, Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at YALE.EDU> wrote:
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>> On Oct 11, 2018, at 2:35 PM, David Daniel <dad at COARSECOURSES.COM <mailto:dad at COARSECOURSES.COM>> wrote:
>> 
>> So I tried to check out the video on YouTube at the link Wilson sent and it
>> says "Video Unavailable." Did that happen like in the last hour or two? I
>> ask as it seems that some of you were able to watch it.
>> DAD
> 
> Curiouser and curiouser.  I watched it (well, as much as I could take) after Wilson’s message first posted (not a middle!), but now it’s unavailable.  

I just accessed it again and saved a copy. It’s 25 MB. I can send it if someone wants to see it and has a place to send it to. BB

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>> sender:       American Dialect Society <ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
>> Poster:       Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM>
>> Subject:      Re: Bugs Bunny coins "Nimrod"?
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>> Wikipedia notes that this 1941 cartoon was suppressed as racist "in 1968."
>> (Elmer Fudd had first appeared with that name in 1940).
>> 
>> FWIW, I began watching Bugs Bunny cartoons on Channel 5 in NYC in 1957 or
>> '58, and this particular one was never shown - then or later. This is the
>> first time I've seen it.
>> 
>> JL
>> 
>> On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 1:20 PM Wilson Gray <hwgray at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>>> Elmer Fudd
>>> 
>>> He used to be a colored fellow, before he came to his senses.
>>> 
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DP0z7oZ0jzQs
>>> On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 12:11 PM Andy Bach <afbach at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> According to "Now You Know" and WikiP, Chuck Jones et alia are the actu=
>> al
>>>> coiners of the idiot version:
>>>> " The word =E2=80=9Cnimrod=E2=80=9D is commonly used to describe someon=
>> e who is acting
>>> like
>>>> a doofus, but the word originally meant the opposite. =E2=80=9CNimrod=
>> =E2=80=9D originally
>>>> comes from the name of a biblical Egyptian king who was widely regarded
>>> as
>>>> a skilled hunter. But, according to Wikipedia
>>>> <
>>> https://nowiknow.us1.list-manage.com/track/click?u=3D2889002ad89d45ca21f5=
>> 0ba46&id=3Daefcd20163&e=3D33dbfa3b8f
>>>> ,
>>>> Bugs Bunny (yes, the iconic cartoon character) used the term
>>> sarcastically
>>>> in reference to hapless hunter Elmer Fudd. Viewers didn=E2=80=99t pick =
>> up the
>>>> sarcasm and the meaning of the term reversed. "
>>>> 
>>>> WikiP cites "Garner's Modern American Usage":
>>>> 
>>> https://books.google.com/books?id=3DmVcJqKs1isUC&pg=3DPR53#v=3Donepage&q&=
>> f=3Dfalse
>>>> 
>>>> Though they also cite the "Dictionary of Jewish Usage"
>>>> 
>>> https://books.google.com/books?id=3DNk_RFL9LYg0C&pg=3DPA126#v=3Donepage&q=
>> &f=3Dfalse
>>>> 
>>>> which says it was in use as meaning "maroon" (said to be Bugs'
>>>> pronunciation of "moron", not referring to Maroons, runaway slaves (whi=
>> ch
>>>> the Straight Dope differs:
>>>> https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/archive/index.php/t-25808.html
>>>> )) is noted as far back as the 1930s
>>>> 
>>>> 
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>>>> 
>>>> Andy Bach,
>>>> afbach at gmail.com
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>>> 
>>> --
>>> -Wilson


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