[Ads-l] To Bed without Dinner

[Jonathan Lighter]

>  "its mother" would have satisfied everyone

Monstrous dehumanization of the child. Next stop, internment.

JL

On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 3:52 PM ADSGarson O'Toole <adsgarsonotoole at gmail.com>
wrote:

> John Baker wrote:
> > It’s “going without a dinner” in chapter one of Through the
> >Looking-Glass (1871).
> >
> > Wilson’s example does not involve a punishment, but it isn’t
> > hard to find additional 19th century examples, some of which
> > predate Lewis Carroll.
>
> In the passage below the lack of dinner was not the worst part of the
> punishment:
>
> Year: 1853
> Book: The History of an Adopted Child
> Author: Geraldine Endsor Jewsbury
>
>
> https://books.google.com/books?id=BiEWAAAAYAAJ&q=%22you+to+bed%22#v=snippet&
>
> [Begin excerpt]
> You know you could have done it if you had chosen, for you had done it
> right once; but now I shall whip you and send you to bed without
> dinner.
> [End excerpt]
>
>
> > From: American Dialect Society [mailto:ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On
> Behalf Of Jonathan Lighter
> > Sent: Monday 15 October 2018 11:50 AM
> > To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
> > Subject: Re: http://Dictionary.com
> >
> > External Email - Think Before You Click
> >
> >
> > "Without your supper" is what I remember from the early '50s.
> >
> > Regional.
> >
> > JL
> >
> > On Sun, Oct 14, 2018 at 11:18 PM Wilson Gray <hwgray at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > "When _a child_ acted up around dinnertime in the 60s, _his_ mother
> might
> > > threaten _them_ by saying, you can go to be bed without dinner. And,
> _they_
> > > might actually go to bed without dinner.
> > > "This phrase dates back to the popular children's book, Where the Wild
> > > Things Are (1963) and was an effort to teach the child not to
> misbehave or
> > > else they'd go hungry."
> > >
> > >
> https://www.dictionary.com/e/s/words-phrases-parents-used-cant-use-now/#go-outside-and-play
> <
> https://www.dictionary.com/e/s/words-phrases-parents-used-cant-use-now/#go-outside-and-play
> >
> > >
> > > Graham's Illustrated Magazine of Literature, Romance, Art, and Fashion
> > > https://books.google.com/books?id=uFIyAQAAMAAJ<
> https://books.google.com/books?id=uFIyAQAAMAAJ>
> > > George R. Graham, ‎Edgar Allan Poe - 1835 - ‎Read - Page 30
> > > LIFE—-—NOT LIKE THE ROSE-—GOING TO BED WITHOUT DINNER.
> > >
> > > I'd been under the impression that Dictionart.com<
> http://Dictionart.com> was a class act.
> > > --
> > > -Wilson
> > > -----
> > > All say, "How hard it is that we have to die!"---a strange complaint to
> > > come from the mouths of people who have had to live.
> > > -Mark Twain
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