[Ads-l] To Bed without Dinner

[ADSGarson O'Toole]

John Baker wrote:
> It’s “going without a dinner” in chapter one of Through the
>Looking-Glass (1871).
>
> Wilson’s example does not involve a punishment, but it isn’t
> hard to find additional 19th century examples, some of which
> predate Lewis Carroll.

In the passage below the lack of dinner was not the worst part of the
punishment:

Year: 1853
Book: The History of an Adopted Child
Author: Geraldine Endsor Jewsbury

https://books.google.com/books?id=BiEWAAAAYAAJ&q=%22you+to+bed%22#v=snippet&

[Begin excerpt]
You know you could have done it if you had chosen, for you had done it
right once; but now I shall whip you and send you to bed without
dinner.
[End excerpt]


> From: American Dialect Society [mailto:ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Jonathan Lighter
> Sent: Monday 15 October 2018 11:50 AM
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> "Without your supper" is what I remember from the early '50s.
>
> Regional.
>
> JL
>
> On Sun, Oct 14, 2018 at 11:18 PM Wilson Gray <hwgray at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > "When _a child_ acted up around dinnertime in the 60s, _his_ mother might
> > threaten _them_ by saying, you can go to be bed without dinner. And, _they_
> > might actually go to bed without dinner.
> > "This phrase dates back to the popular children's book, Where the Wild
> > Things Are (1963) and was an effort to teach the child not to misbehave or
> > else they'd go hungry."
> >
> > https://www.dictionary.com/e/s/words-phrases-parents-used-cant-use-now/#go-outside-and-play<https://www.dictionary.com/e/s/words-phrases-parents-used-cant-use-now/#go-outside-and-play>
> >
> > Graham's Illustrated Magazine of Literature, Romance, Art, and Fashion
> > https://books.google.com/books?id=uFIyAQAAMAAJ<https://books.google.com/books?id=uFIyAQAAMAAJ>
> > George R. Graham, ‎Edgar Allan Poe - 1835 - ‎Read - Page 30
> > LIFE—-—NOT LIKE THE ROSE-—GOING TO BED WITHOUT DINNER.
> >
> > I'd been under the impression that Dictionart.com<http://Dictionart.com> was a class act.
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