[Ads-l] [EEMSG-SPAM: Suspect][Non-DoD Source] pooched (UNCLASSIFIED)

[Jonathan Lighter]

"Fuck the dog" means 'to loaf or shirk duty; fuck off," but "screw the
pooch" means 'to blunder seriously.'

JL

On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 8:03 PM Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at yale.edu>
wrote:

> Great research!  Too bad the Yale Alumni Magazine would be an unlikely
> candidate to consider this news fit to print, even if they’re happy to
> publish Fred’s findings.
>
> > On Oct 23, 2018, at 5:10 PM, Ben Zimmer <bgzimmer at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
> >
> > Yes, it was definitely modeled on "fuck the dog," which was already in
> use.
> > See my Slate piece.
> >
> >
> https://slate.com/human-interest/2014/01/screw-the-pooch-etymology-of-the-idiom-dates-back-to-nasa-and-the-military.html
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 5:05 PM Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at yale.edu>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Is there any reasonable speculation on the origin of the expression?
> Was
> >> (metaphorical) “fuck the dog” already in widespread use before “screw
> the
> >> pooch” arose?  Is it clear what prompted it?  It strikes me as being
> >> analogous in some ways to “jump the shark”, but that one has a
> >> straightforward origin story.  Presumably there’s no TV episode we can
> >> blame for this one.
> >>
> >> LH
> >>
> >>> On Oct 23, 2018, at 3:46 PM, MULLINS, WILLIAM D (Bill) CIV USARMY
> RDECOM
> >> AMRDEC (US) <william.d.mullins18.civ at MAIL.MIL> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> CLASSIFICATION: UNCLASSIFIED
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> ----
> >>>>
> >>>> "Screwed."
> >>>>
> >>>> Nicolle Wallace on _Deadline: White House_ yesterday:
> >>>>
> >>>> "The second member of the Dowd-Cobb team [is] basically acknowledging
> >> that, on obstruction, the President's pooched."
> >>>>
> >>>> < screw the pooch (popularized by _The Right Stuff_) < fuck the dog
> >>>>
> >>>> JL
> >>>
> >>> Don't know the dating that HDAS has on this, but I looked the phrase up
> >> in HathiTrust and found it:
> >>>
> >>> [The Peace Corps} _The Peace Corps Reader_ Washington DC: Office of
> >> Public Affairs, Peace Corps, 1969. p.  88.
> >>>
> >>> "Oh, man, did I ever screw the pooch on this one -- they can't write!"
> >>>
> >>> From the cover design, it almost looks to be for a juvenile audience.
> >>>
> >>>
> >
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