[Ads-l] A newish construction and a newish euphemism
Laurence Horn
laurence.horn at YALE.EDU
Fri Apr 5 01:39:40 UTC 2019
> On Apr 4, 2019, at 4:29 PM, ADSGarson O'Toole <adsgarsonotoole at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
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> Thanks for your response LH.
>
> Below is a joke that relies on a displacement that, I think, is in
> some ways analogous. The original target phrase of this discussion
> thread is:
> They cheated their children’s way into college.
>
> The more common expression (with a different meaning) is:
> The children cheated their way into college.
>
> Consider this comical expression:
> The father worked his son's way through college.
>
> The more common expression (with a different meaning) is:
> The son worked his way through college.
>
> Here is the joke I found in 1925. The phrasing is different, but the
> key idea is similar.
>
> Newspaper: The Ottawa Campus
> Newspaper Location: Ottawa, Kansas
> Date: December 9, 1925
> Page: 3
> Database: Newspapers.com
>
> [Begin excerpt]
> Father will be glad when he has finished working his son's way through college.
> [End excerpt]
Exactly the same, other than the fact that the Kansas readers were expected to understand this as a joke, whereas Lester Holt (or his writer) was presumably expecting his listeners to take his construction in stride. Here’s another one a non-list colleague just sent me, which I found even odder than the NBC News one, although it’s in the same family:
Burglary Suspect Claims He Threw Ex's Keys Into Creek | Fort Smith ...
https://5newsonline.com/2013/01/26/burglary-suspect-claims-he-threw-exs-keys-into-creek/
Jan 26, 2013 - A Fayetteville man faces a felony charge of residential burglary and a handful of misdemeanors after his ex-girlfriend told police he forced her way into her apartment, pushed her down and stole her key chain. […]
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The first two times I read it, I parsed it as “he forced his way into her apartment”
LH
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> On Thu, Apr 4, 2019 at 2:04 PM Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at yale.edu> wrote:
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>> Same meaning, but not the same construction. Maybe “His parents paved his way into office” but not “His parents lied/cheated/bribed/blackmailed his way into office”. Only he could have done that.
>>
>> LH
>>
>>> On Apr 3, 2019, at 11:04 PM, ADSGarson O'Toole <adsgarsonotoole at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
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>>> Does this fit the template you are interested in?
>>>
>>> [Begin match]
>>> T. Macci Plauti Trinummus, Page 135
>>> https://books.google.com/books?id=1bcLnVxnE0gC
>>> Titus Maccius Plautus, Joseph Henry Gray - 1897
>>>
>>> A distinguished father paved his son's path to office, the son must
>>> keep the road open for his descendants. 644. atque honor! posterorum
>>> tuorum ut uindex fieres, ...
>>> [End match]
>>>
>>> Garson
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 3, 2019 at 10:47 PM Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at yale.edu> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Has anyone encountered cases in which one X’s *someone else’s* way somewhere as opposed to just X-ing one's own way there? I heard this from Lester Holt on tonight’s NBC Nightly News, and while it’s clear what’s meant, I didn’t know one could say it this way. He was describing the ongoing college admissions scandal and referred to Lori Loughlin and Felicity Huffman being arraigned in court on…
>>>>
>>>> “charges that they cheated their children’s way into college”.
>>>>
>>>> The euphemism is “edibles”, as in this Times piece:
>>>>
>>>> Obviously, an edible is transparently anything that one can eat, but in this sense it’s a bit like “drink” = ‘alcoholic beverage’. One of my favorites along these lines is the option in some college residences of opting for a “substance-free" floor.
>>>>
>>>> LH
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