[Ads-l] _sandwich =?utf-8?Q?=C3=A0_?=la Colette_ a method of sexual intercourse
Arnold M. Zwicky
zwicky at STANFORD.EDU
Tue Feb 26 00:53:59 UTC 2019
some glitch at Stanford prevented me from posting to ADS-L over the last day (it's now fixed), so i'm waay behind on what i have to say on this topic. this will be brief, and then i'll post on my blog.
> On Feb 24, 2019, at 11:51 PM, Wilson Gray <hwgray at gmail.com> wrote:
>> without Colette
> Close, but no cigar: "sandwich" can't be mapped one-to-one and onto to
> "sandwich à la Colette." Indeed, simple "sandwich" is hardly worthy of
> notice, IMO. It's just, well, ordinary and obvious, wouldn't you agree?
no, absolutely not. the definition you cited for "sandwich a la Colette" (sorry, i can't do diacritics) is *exactly* the definition of "sandwich" in "make a sandwich" in GDoS. (and also the definition for "fuck sandwich" as used by some speakers -- well attested). we're dealing with synonyms here, in fact of a specific type: the "a la Colette" functions as a _disambiguator_, much like "ha ha" and "peculiar" in "did you mean funny ha-ha or funny peculiar?". "sandwich a la Colette" conveys that the speaker isn't talking about food.
expressions with these conventionalized disambiguators do of course deserve listing in a dictionary, and it's worth pointing out the particular cases to lexicographers ("sandwich a la Colette" isn't in GDoS or the OED; "fuck sandwich" isn't in either of them, or even in Sheidlower's "FWord", and those are genuine lacunas). but the double-fuck sense of "sandwich" is certainly in GDoS.
(meanwhile, "double-fuck" used for exactly the act we've been talking about is in Sheidlower, but not in GDoS or the OED.)
there's a great deal more here, but that's for a blog posting.
> On Sun, Feb 24, 2019 at 3:45 PM Arnold M. Zwicky <zwicky at stanford.edu>
>>> On Feb 24, 2019, at 1:44 AM, Wilson Gray <hwgray at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>>> Sex-Rebel: Black (memoirs of a gash gourmet), Pages 100-101
>>> Bob Greene [pseud. of Frank Marshall Davis]
>>> 1968. Greenleaf Classics, Inc., San Diego, CA:
>>> ... then she turned to me, belly against belly, impaled on my rod. Ernie
>>> entered her from behind, both of us filling her ass and cunt with
>>> rods as she became a _sandwich à la Colette_.
>>> Not in Green's.
>> actually, it is, just without Colette (GDoS is often hard to neotiate):
>> make a sanwich (v.) to makea sexual position in which two men are having
>> simultaneous vaginal and anal intercourse with a woman. 1980 E. Folb
>> Runnin' Down Some Lines 158..._ making a sandwich_ or _running/pulling a
>> double train_
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