[Ads-l] _sandwich =?UTF-8?Q?=C3=A0_?=la Colette_ a method of sexual intercourse

Wilson Gray hwgray at GMAIL.COM
Thu Feb 28 03:21:24 UTC 2019

> expressions with these conventionalized disambiguators do of course
deserve listing in a dictionary

My intention was merely to document that the specific phrase, _sandwich à
la Colette_, with the required meaning, existed somewhere other than in my
memory and not to demonstrate that Green's was lacking in some way.  So,
naturally, I searched Green's for _Colette_ and not for _sandwich_, not
because I don't know how to use GDoS.

IAC, I regret the misunderstanding.

Oh, well. As someone has said, to cite yet another "sandwich": "Life is a
shit sandwich and, every day, you take another bite."

shit sandwich (n.)
1. a humbling experience; ‘humble pie’.

On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 7:54 PM Arnold M. Zwicky <zwicky at stanford.edu>

> some glitch at Stanford prevented me from posting to ADS-L over the last
> day (it's now fixed), so i'm waay behind on what i have to say on this
> topic.  this will be brief, and then i'll post on my blog.
> > On Feb 24, 2019, at 11:51 PM, Wilson Gray <hwgray at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> without Colette
> >
> > Close, but no cigar: "sandwich" can't be mapped one-to-one and onto to
> > "sandwich à la Colette." Indeed, simple "sandwich" is hardly worthy of
> > notice, IMO. It's just, well, ordinary and obvious, wouldn't you agree?
> no, absolutely not. the definition you cited for "sandwich a la Colette"
> (sorry, i can't do diacritics) is *exactly* the definition of "sandwich" in
> "make a sandwich" in GDoS.  (and also the definition for "fuck sandwich" as
> used by some speakers -- well attested).  we're dealing with synonyms here,
> in fact of a specific type: the "a la Colette" functions as a
> _disambiguator_, much like "ha ha" and "peculiar" in "did you mean funny
> ha-ha or funny peculiar?".  "sandwich a la Colette" conveys that the
> speaker isn't talking about food.
> expressions with these conventionalized disambiguators do of course
> deserve listing in a dictionary, and it's worth pointing out the particular
> cases to lexicographers ("sandwich a la Colette" isn't in GDoS or the OED;
> "fuck sandwich" isn't in either of them, or even in Sheidlower's "FWord",
> and those are genuine lacunas).  but the double-fuck sense of "sandwich" is
> certainly in GDoS.
> (meanwhile, "double-fuck" used for exactly the act we've been talking
> about is in Sheidlower, but not in GDoS or the OED.)
> there's a great deal more here, but that's for a blog posting.
> >
> > On Sun, Feb 24, 2019 at 3:45 PM Arnold M. Zwicky <zwicky at stanford.edu>
> > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Feb 24, 2019, at 1:44 AM, Wilson Gray <hwgray at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> https://www.scribd.com/doc/22472003/Sex-Rebel-Black-Memoirs-of-a-Gash-Gourmet-Frank-Marshall-Davis
> >>> Sex-Rebel: Black (memoirs of a gash gourmet), Pages 100-101
> >>> Bob Greene [pseud. of Frank Marshall Davis]
> >>> 1968. Greenleaf Classics, Inc., San Diego, CA:
> >>> ... then she turned to me, belly against belly, impaled on my rod.
> Ernie
> >>> entered her from behind, both of us filling her ass and cunt with
> >> rampaging
> >>> rods as she became a _sandwich à la Colette_.
> >>>
> >>> Not in Green's.
> >>
> >> actually, it is, just without Colette (GDoS is often hard to neotiate):
> >>
> >> make a sanwich (v.) to makea sexual position in which two men are having
> >> simultaneous vaginal and anal intercourse with a woman. 1980 E. Folb
> >> Runnin' Down Some Lines 158..._ making  a sandwich_ or _running/pulling
> a
> >> double train_
> >>
> >> arnold
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