[Ads-l] _sandwich =?UTF-8?Q?=C3=A0_?=la Colette_ a method of sexual intercourse

[Andy Bach]

And the more bread you have, the less shit you have to eat.

On Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at 9:22 PM Wilson Gray <hwgray at gmail.com> wrote:

> > expressions with these conventionalized disambiguators do of course
> deserve listing in a dictionary
>
> My intention was merely to document that the specific phrase, _sandwich à
> la Colette_, with the required meaning, existed somewhere other than in my
> memory and not to demonstrate that Green's was lacking in some way.  So,
> naturally, I searched Green's for _Colette_ and not for _sandwich_, not
> because I don't know how to use GDoS.
>
> IAC, I regret the misunderstanding.
>
> Oh, well. As someone has said, to cite yet another "sandwich": "Life is a
> shit sandwich and, every day, you take another bite."
>
> GDoS:
> shit sandwich (n.)
> 1. a humbling experience; ‘humble pie’.
>
> On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 7:54 PM Arnold M. Zwicky <zwicky at stanford.edu>
> wrote:
>
> > some glitch at Stanford prevented me from posting to ADS-L over the last
> > day (it's now fixed), so i'm waay behind on what i have to say on this
> > topic.  this will be brief, and then i'll post on my blog.
> >
> > > On Feb 24, 2019, at 11:51 PM, Wilson Gray <hwgray at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> without Colette
> > >
> > > Close, but no cigar: "sandwich" can't be mapped one-to-one and onto to
> > > "sandwich à la Colette." Indeed, simple "sandwich" is hardly worthy of
> > > notice, IMO. It's just, well, ordinary and obvious, wouldn't you agree?
> >
> > no, absolutely not. the definition you cited for "sandwich a la Colette"
> > (sorry, i can't do diacritics) is *exactly* the definition of "sandwich"
> in
> > "make a sandwich" in GDoS.  (and also the definition for "fuck sandwich"
> as
> > used by some speakers -- well attested).  we're dealing with synonyms
> here,
> > in fact of a specific type: the "a la Colette" functions as a
> > _disambiguator_, much like "ha ha" and "peculiar" in "did you mean funny
> > ha-ha or funny peculiar?".  "sandwich a la Colette" conveys that the
> > speaker isn't talking about food.
> >
> > expressions with these conventionalized disambiguators do of course
> > deserve listing in a dictionary, and it's worth pointing out the
> particular
> > cases to lexicographers ("sandwich a la Colette" isn't in GDoS or the
> OED;
> > "fuck sandwich" isn't in either of them, or even in Sheidlower's "FWord",
> > and those are genuine lacunas).  but the double-fuck sense of "sandwich"
> is
> > certainly in GDoS.
> >
> > (meanwhile, "double-fuck" used for exactly the act we've been talking
> > about is in Sheidlower, but not in GDoS or the OED.)
> >
> > there's a great deal more here, but that's for a blog posting.
> >
> > >
> > > On Sun, Feb 24, 2019 at 3:45 PM Arnold M. Zwicky <zwicky at stanford.edu>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> On Feb 24, 2019, at 1:44 AM, Wilson Gray <hwgray at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> >
> https://www.scribd.com/doc/22472003/Sex-Rebel-Black-Memoirs-of-a-Gash-Gourmet-Frank-Marshall-Davis
> > >>> Sex-Rebel: Black (memoirs of a gash gourmet), Pages 100-101
> > >>> Bob Greene [pseud. of Frank Marshall Davis]
> > >>> 1968. Greenleaf Classics, Inc., San Diego, CA:
> > >>> ... then she turned to me, belly against belly, impaled on my rod.
> > Ernie
> > >>> entered her from behind, both of us filling her ass and cunt with
> > >> rampaging
> > >>> rods as she became a _sandwich à la Colette_.
> > >>>
> > >>> Not in Green's.
> > >>
> > >> actually, it is, just without Colette (GDoS is often hard to
> neotiate):
> > >>
> > >> make a sanwich (v.) to makea sexual position in which two men are
> having
> > >> simultaneous vaginal and anal intercourse with a woman. 1980 E. Folb
> > >> Runnin' Down Some Lines 158..._ making  a sandwich_ or
> _running/pulling
> > a
> > >> double train_
> > >>
> > >> arnold
> >
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