[Ads-l] "sucker punch" 1910 etc.

Wilson Gray hwgray at GMAIL.COM
Sat Jul 27 03:47:51 UTC 2019


> This is ungrammatical. I think the "for" wasn't supposed to be there.

Not necessarily ungrammatical: cf.

> At times one saw the influence of Daly in the use of the left at close
> quarters and
> the effective high block for which [use of the left at close quarters]
made Fitz's right look like a
> sucker punch.

On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 8:26 PM Mark Mandel <markamandel at gmail.com> wrote:

> This is ungrammatical. I think the "for" wasn't supposed to be there.
>
> the effective high block *for which made Fitz's right look *like a sucker
> punch
>
> MAM
>
> On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 8:13 PM Wilson Gray <hwgray at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > the punch is aimed at the sucker
> >
> > That has been my unfortunate, personal experience, having been that
> sucker.
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 9:22 AM Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > As I read it, the 1899 "sucker punch" means a foolish one.
> > >
> > > In  the later exx., the punch is aimed at the sucker; I believe in 1899
> > it
> > > is thrown by thim.
> > >
> > > JL
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 9:13 AM ADSGarson O'Toole <
> > > adsgarsonotoole at gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Here is an instance of "sucker punch" in 1899. The context is boxing,
> > > > but I am not certain of the meaning. Perhaps you have already seen
> it.
> > > >
> > > > Date: June 12, 1899
> > > > Newspaper: The Buffalo Review
> > > > Newspaper Location: Buffalo, New York
> > > > Article: "The King Is Dead, Long Live the King"
> > > > Quote Page 1, Column 5
> > > > Database: Newspapers.com
> > > >
> https://www.newspapers.com/image/354436445/?terms=%22sucker%2Bpunch%22
> > > >
> > > > [Begin excerpt]
> > > > At times one saw the influence of Daly in the use of the left at
> close
> > > > quarters and
> > *the effective high block for which made Fitz's right look > > like a
> > sucker punch*. They say that a fighter forgets his pictured
> > > > attitude when in the ring.
> > > > [End excerpt]
> > > >
> > > > Garson
> >
> >
>
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