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[Barretts Mail]

Nice find! I had looked at the UD, but under “noggin” not “noggin noggin”, lol.

It appears this is a hapax legomenon. Is it in use in speech other than i reference to “All for Me Grog"? (If not, then Olin Oden must identify it like I did: context.)

Benjamin Barrett
Formerly of Seattle, WA

> On 29 Jun 2019, at 22:28, ADSGarson O'Toole <adsgarsonotoole at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
> 
> An entry at Urban Dictionary suggests that "noggin noggin" is a minced oath.
> https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=noggin%20noggin
> 
> [Begin excerpt]
> noggin noggin
> Used in irish tunes to gracefully omit "Bloody Foogin". In partiucular
> this is to be found used in the tune "All For Me Grog", whose lyrics
> are easily found on the internet.
> Where are me boots, me noggin noggin boots,
> #irsh slang#irish#celtic#bloody#fucking
> by Olin Oden August 25, 2006
> [End excerpt]
> 
> The phrase "gone for" probably means that the items were sold for beer
> and tobacco (as you suggest). See the alternative verses below.
> Here are some additional verses containing "noggin' noggin'" from a
> version of the song by The Dubliners.
> 
> All For Me Grog
> The Dubliners
> https://genius.com/The-dubliners-all-for-me-grog-lyrics
> 
> [Verse 4]
> Where is me wife me noggin' noggin' wife
> She's all sold for beer and tobacco
> You see her front it got worn out
> And her tail been kicked about
> And I'm sure she's looking out for better weather
> 
> [Verse 5]
> Oh, where is me bed me noggin' noggin' bed
> It's all sold for beer and tobacco
> You see I sold it to the girls
> And the springs they got all twirls
> And the sheets they're looking out for better weather
> 
> On Sun, Jun 30, 2019 at 1:03 AM Barretts Mail <mail.barretts at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> The Blarney Lads have a recording of “All for Me Grog” (http://pakvim.net/watch/HgpcNpOlxJA <http://pakvim.net/watch/HgpcNpOlxJA>), whose lyrics include what appears to be the adjective “noggin”.
>> 
>> ****
>> Where are me boots, me noggin, noggin boots
>> they're all gone for beer and tobacco
>> For the heels they are worn out and the toes are kicked about
>> And the soles are looking for better weather
>> 
>> …
>> 
>> Where is me shirt me noggin, noggin shirt
>> It's all gone for beer and tobacco
>> For the collar is all worn and the sleeves they are all torn
>> And the tail is looking for better weather
>> 
>> ####
>> ####
>> 
>> I’m not sure what “gone for” means. Has the singer worn them out due to beer and tobacco or has the singer sold them for beer and tobacco?
>> 
>> The OED defines “noggin” as a small drinking vessel. I suppose “noggin boots” could be “drinking boots”. Just listening to the song, I thought “noggin" meant either “fucking” or “awesome”.
>> 
>> This same song appears in Shakespeare, issue 65, spring 2017, p. 19 (https://tinyurl.com/y3xl3b7c <https://tinyurl.com/y3xl3b7c>), which says it’s based on the 1956 recording by Al Lloyd.
>> 
>> There are a couple of instances on the internet of “noggin” (meaning “head”) being spelled as “naggin” and a citation that appears to be unrelated at https://www.jstor.org/stable/25473871?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents <https://www.jstor.org/stable/25473871?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents>, but I couldn’t find the meaning for the song above.
>> iety - http://www.americandialect.org

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