[Ads-l] soldier

Baker, John JBAKER at STRADLEY.COM
Mon Nov 11 19:01:32 UTC 2019


Is there a generic term that includes all members of military forces?  Currently in the United States the practice seems to be to refer to “service men and women,” but that seems cumbersome and cannot necessarily be extended to those from other countries.


John Baker


From: American Dialect Society <ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU> On Behalf Of Jonathan Lighter
Sent: Saturday, November 9, 2019 4:46 PM
To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
Subject: Re: soldier

Let's throw in "general" as a synonym for "admiral":

2019
https://www.bostonherald.com/2019/11/08/midway-stuns-with-epic-tale-of-wwii-battle/<https://www.bostonherald.com/2019/11/08/midway-stuns-with-epic-tale-of-wwii-battle/>
:
a movie that never slackens, a picture with stunning clarity that conveys
the enormous stakes, what had to be done and, above all, what the soldiers,
from generals down, knew and how they faced what for many were their final
moments.

Yep. Midway.

JL

On Sat, Nov 9, 2019 at 4:27 PM Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com<mailto:wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com>>
wrote:

> OMG, here's another:
>
> 2019 https://screenrant.com/midway-2019-movie-reviews/<https://screenrant.com/midway-2019-movie-reviews/> :
> Obviously, the American soldiers are portrayed as the heroes in this
> story, but their Japanese counterparts are never reduced to tasteless
> caricatures of one-dimensional villains.
>
> For those in the dark, the combatants at the battle of Midway were almost
> entirely sailors and airmen (including Marine aviators).
>
> JL
>
> On Sat, Nov 9, 2019 at 4:06 PM Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com<mailto:wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com>>
> wrote:
>
>> From another review of the same bad movie:
>>
>> 2019 http://reelreviews.com/midway-movie-review<http://reelreviews.com/midway-movie-review> :
>> It is nice that Emmerich and company chose to pay homage to ALL the
>> soldiers [including Japanese] who lost their lives at Midway.
>>
>> JL
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 9:46 PM Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com<mailto:wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com>>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> How did I miss that one?
>>>
>>> JL
>>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 9:28 PM Wilson Gray <hwgray at gmail.com<mailto:hwgray at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> > _led_ the aircraft carrier
>>>>
>>>> _commanded_ the aircraft carrier, dammit!
>>>>
>>>> Bring back the draft!
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 7:01 PM Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com
<mailto:wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com%0b>>>>> >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > In other words, 'any member of a military or naval force.'
>>>> >
>>>> > I thought I'd posted one of these a few years ago, but maybe not. I
>>>> might
>>>> > have chosen to ignore it. This one's brand new:
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6924650/reviews?sort=userRating&dir=asc&ratingFilter=0<https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6924650/reviews?sort=userRating&dir=asc&ratingFilter=0>
>>>> >
>>>> > Along the way, we meet other famous American soldiers: Admiral Chester
>>>> > Nimitz (Woody Harrelson) Commander in Chief of the US Pacific Fleet;
>>>> Vice
>>>> > Admiral William "Bull" Halsey (Dennis Quaid) who led the aircraft
>>>> carrier
>>>> > USS Enterprise; Rear Admiral Raymond Spruance (Jake Weber) who took
>>>> over
>>>> > the Enterprise for the Battle of Midway [etc.].
>>>> >
>>>> > JL
>>>> >
>>>> > "If the truth is half as bad as I think it is, you can't handle the
>>>> truth."
>>>> >
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> -Wilson
>>>> -----
>>>> All say, "How hard it is that we have to die!"---a strange complaint to
>>>> come from the mouths of people who have had to live.
>>>> -Mark Twain
>>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>> --
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>>> truth."
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>>
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>> truth."
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