[Ads-l] bread-and-butter pickles

ADSGarson O'Toole adsgarsonotoole at GMAIL.COM
Sat Nov 30 00:12:48 UTC 2019


Excellent work, Peter and everyone.
Here is a slightly earlier citation in 1925. "Fanning" is incorporated
into the name of the product.

Date: February 6, 1925
Newspaper: The Cedar Rapids Gazette
Newspaper Location: Cedar Rapids, Iowa
Article: (Advertisement for Denecke's Grocery)
Database: Newspapers.com
https://www.newspapers.com/clip/39815008/fanningpickles/

[Begin excerpt]
Fanning Bread and Butter Pickles.........jar 39c
[End excerpt]

Garson

On Fri, Nov 29, 2019 at 11:49 AM Peter Reitan <pjreitan at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> 1925 is the earliest I've seen.
> https://www.newspapers.com/clip/39778735/lincoln_journal_star/
>
>
> This one gives him the credit.
> https://www.newspapers.com/clip/39779118/sterling_daily_gazette/
>
> While this one shows she took multiple, extended business trips related to her bread and butter pickle business.
> https://www.newspapers.com/clip/39778647/the_times/
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> Do those citations show that the name came about before the Great =
> Depression? BB
>
> > On 28 Nov 2019, at 21:52, Peter Reitan <pjreitan at HOTMAIL.COM> wrote:
> >=20
> > The "Bread and Butter"pickle appears to have been invented by Mrs. =
> Omar Fanning, the former Cora Eades, of Streator, Illinois in the =
> mid-1920s.  Mr. Fanning raised cucumbers and his wife and mother in law =
> pickled smaller waste cucumbers.  People liked them and they built a =
> successful business out of it, the Fanning Bread and Butter Pickle =
> Company.
> >=20
> > Some early articles refer to her famous bread and butter pickles.  =
> Later articles credit them with inventing the pickles of that name.
> >=20
> > The earliest examples (1925 and 1926) are specifically their pickles.
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> >> The OED and Merriam-Webster do not list it.
> >=20
> > That's quite surprising! I've been familiar with the term since early
> > childhood, so that I've never wondered what the origin of it might be. =
> It
> > would have been like wondering what the meaning of _is_ is.
> >=20
> > On Thu, Nov 28, 2019 at 11:19 AM Barretts Mail =
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> > wrote:
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> >> I made bread-and-butter pickles this year for the first time. I used =
> my
> >> grandmother=3DE2=3D80=3D99s recipe and wondered about the name, which =
> I saw use=3D
> > d on some
> >> pickles at the grocery store.
> >>=20
> >> Wiktionary (https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/bread-and-butter_pickle <
> >> https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/bread-and-butter_pickle>) says its a =
> sweet
> >> pickle used in sandwiches. The OED and Merriam-Webster do not list =
> it.
> >>=20
> >> According to Cottage at the Crossroads (
> >> https://cottageatthecrossroads.com/bread-and-butter-pickles/ <
> >> https://cottageatthecrossroads.com/bread-and-butter-pickles/>), the =
> name
> >> comes from the Depression when they were used on bread-and-butter
> >> sandwiches, which were a cheap meal.
> >>=20
> >> That recipe uses onion, vinegar, sugar, mustard seed, celery seed and
> >> turmeric, all of which are in my grandmother=3DE2=3D80=3D99s recipe =
> (which also=3D
> > includes
> >> bell pepper).
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