[Ads-l] bread-and-butter pickles

[ADSGarson O'Toole]

Here is a match in Illinois in 1923.

Date: October 12, 1923
Newspaper: Streator Daily Free Press
Newspaper Location: Streator, Illinois
Article: (Advertisement for Purcell's)
Quote Page 16, Column 1
Database: Newspapers.com
https://www.newspapers.com/clip/39816734/purcellfanning/

[Begin excerpt]
Fanning's Bread and Butter Pickles 35c Bottle
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Garson

On Fri, Nov 29, 2019 at 7:12 PM ADSGarson O'Toole
<adsgarsonotoole at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Excellent work, Peter and everyone.
> Here is a slightly earlier citation in 1925. "Fanning" is incorporated
> into the name of the product.
>
> Date: February 6, 1925
> Newspaper: The Cedar Rapids Gazette
> Newspaper Location: Cedar Rapids, Iowa
> Article: (Advertisement for Denecke's Grocery)
> Database: Newspapers.com
> https://www.newspapers.com/clip/39815008/fanningpickles/
>
> [Begin excerpt]
> Fanning Bread and Butter Pickles.........jar 39c
> [End excerpt]
>
> Garson
>
> On Fri, Nov 29, 2019 at 11:49 AM Peter Reitan <pjreitan at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > 1925 is the earliest I've seen.
> > https://www.newspapers.com/clip/39778735/lincoln_journal_star/
> >
> >
> > This one gives him the credit.
> > https://www.newspapers.com/clip/39779118/sterling_daily_gazette/
> >
> > While this one shows she took multiple, extended business trips related to her bread and butter pickle business.
> > https://www.newspapers.com/clip/39778647/the_times/
> > ________________________________
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> > Subject: Re: bread-and-butter pickles
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> >
> > Do those citations show that the name came about before the Great =
> > Depression? BB
> >
> > > On 28 Nov 2019, at 21:52, Peter Reitan <pjreitan at HOTMAIL.COM> wrote:
> > >=20
> > > The "Bread and Butter"pickle appears to have been invented by Mrs. =
> > Omar Fanning, the former Cora Eades, of Streator, Illinois in the =
> > mid-1920s.  Mr. Fanning raised cucumbers and his wife and mother in law =
> > pickled smaller waste cucumbers.  People liked them and they built a =
> > successful business out of it, the Fanning Bread and Butter Pickle =
> > Company.
> > >=20
> > > Some early articles refer to her famous bread and butter pickles.  =
> > Later articles credit them with inventing the pickles of that name.
> > >=20
> > > The earliest examples (1925 and 1926) are specifically their pickles.
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: American Dialect Society <ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU> on behalf of =
> > Wilson Gray <hwgray at GMAIL.COM>
> > > Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2019 11:19:12 AM
> > > To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU <ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
> > > Subject: Re: bread-and-butter pickles
> > >=20
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> > >=20
> > >> The OED and Merriam-Webster do not list it.
> > >=20
> > > That's quite surprising! I've been familiar with the term since early
> > > childhood, so that I've never wondered what the origin of it might be. =
> > It
> > > would have been like wondering what the meaning of _is_ is.
> > >=20
> > > On Thu, Nov 28, 2019 at 11:19 AM Barretts Mail =
> > <mail.barretts at gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >=20
> > >> I made bread-and-butter pickles this year for the first time. I used =
> > my
> > >> grandmother=3DE2=3D80=3D99s recipe and wondered about the name, which =
> > I saw use=3D
> > > d on some
> > >> pickles at the grocery store.
> > >>=20
> > >> Wiktionary (https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/bread-and-butter_pickle <
> > >> https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/bread-and-butter_pickle>) says its a =
> > sweet
> > >> pickle used in sandwiches. The OED and Merriam-Webster do not list =
> > it.
> > >>=20
> > >> According to Cottage at the Crossroads (
> > >> https://cottageatthecrossroads.com/bread-and-butter-pickles/ <
> > >> https://cottageatthecrossroads.com/bread-and-butter-pickles/>), the =
> > name
> > >> comes from the Depression when they were used on bread-and-butter
> > >> sandwiches, which were a cheap meal.
> > >>=20
> > >> That recipe uses onion, vinegar, sugar, mustard seed, celery seed and
> > >> turmeric, all of which are in my grandmother=3DE2=3D80=3D99s recipe =
> > (which also=3D
> > > includes
> > >> bell pepper).
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