[Ads-l] Antedating of "Pastrami"

victor steinbok aardvark66 at GMAIL.COM
Mon Apr 27 13:19:05 EDT 2020


There are multiple spellings through 19th century for sure, all derived
from the original basturma/basterma/bastrema - again, depending on source.
It seems to have stabilized by WWI.

VS

On Mon, Apr 27, 2020, 10:26 Marc Sacks <msacksg at gmail.com> wrote:

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> I've also seen it spelled "pastromi" though I can't recall where - maybe in
> the Boston area, where I've seen "baigels" and dry "cleansers" (I suppose
> the s is silent). Can anyone track this down? A search for "pastromi" only
> turns up pastrami. (In fact, when I typed the former in this reply the
> spell-checker automatically changed "o" to "a" and I had to change it
> back.)
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> On Sun, Apr 26, 2020 at 7:01 PM Shapiro, Fred <fred.shapiro at yale.edu>
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> > pastrami (OED 1899)
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> > 1895 _Butte Daily Miner_ 15 Jan. 5/3 (Newspapers.com)  If you want a fine
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> > nd excellent lunch for your table call at C. Hermann's delicatessen
> store,
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> > 120 W. Park street, where you will find all kinds of delicacies, such as
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> > . smoked beef, beef rolade, roumania pastrami, weiner wurst, etc.
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