[Ads-l] Can We Please Stop Using =?Windows-1252?Q?=91Latinx=92=3F_?=Thanx. | by Kurly Tlapoyawa | Human Parts

Wed Aug 19 23:08:08 UTC 2020

I knew people in New England years ago who used "Latin" where I would normally have expected to hear "Hispanic."
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We don't need "alumnx" because we have "alum."  So how about "Lat" for
"Latinx"?

Are those crickets I hear?

On Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 4:43 PM Wilson Gray <hwgray at gmail.com> wrote:

> > New thread? ChicanX.
>
> Because Chican at s aren't Latin at s?
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> On Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 2:32 PM Peter Reitan <pjreitan at hotmail.com> wrote=
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> > New thread? ChicanX.
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> > >  what Mill called the etymological fallacy.
> >
> > A perennial top favorite among language engineers and word-lovers.
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> >
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> >
> > On Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 1:55 PM Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at yale.edu>
> > wrote:
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> > > With respect to Sali, it should be stressed that (as he notes) the
> point
> > of
> > > the Medium piece linked to is not at all connected with that of the A=
DS
> > > thread. The former is an objection to the "Latin" part of "Latinx" on
> > > etymological grounds, not to the "x" part, which was the focus of the
> ADS
> > > thread. (Nobody in that thread was discussing attitudes toward "Latin=
o"
> > and
> > > "Latina", just attitudes toward "Latinx".)  Indeed, the subhead notes
> the
> > > importance of gender inclusivity. Whether Tlapoyawa's objection to th=
e
> > > "Latin-" forms is well-taken or not depends on your attitude toward
> what
> > > Mill called the etymological fallacy.
> > >
> > > LH
> > >
> > > On Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 12:14 PM Salikoko S. Mufwene <
> mufw at uchicago.edu>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > I find this Medium article so relevant to the discussion yesterday
> > about
> > > > "Latinx," though its focus is not the same as that on the ADS List.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
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