[Ads-l] "disappear" as a transitive verb
ADSGarson O'Toole
adsgarsonotoole at GMAIL.COM
Fri Aug 28 03:06:45 UTC 2020
Ben Zimmer mentioned in the thread from 2013 that the OED has
transitive "disappear" from 1897. Here is an instance in 1895.
Year: 1895
Series: Sessional Papers No 11B
Title: Report of An Investigation Into the Pilotage System at St. John, N.B.
Author: Captain W. H. Smith (Chairman of the Board of Examiners of
Masters and Mates
Section: To Mr. Schofield
Quote Page 169
Printed by S. E. Dawson, Ottawa, Canada
https://books.google.com/books?id=LJk5AQAAMAAJ&q=%22disappear+them%22#v=snippet&
[Begin excerpt]
Q. If there are more pilots than the business requires, then the
surplus would disappear?--A. How do you disappear them? I cannot
answer questions for the future, and I do not know what the conditions
are at other ports, or what the volume of business they do, compared
with ours.
[End excerpt]
Garson
On Wed, Aug 26, 2020 at 8:50 PM Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> My memory conforms to Larry's. I recall being surprised that the Argentine
> generals were such fans of Catch-22.
>
> JL
>
> On Wed, Aug 26, 2020 at 8:14 PM Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at yale.edu>
> wrote:
>
> > My own memory is that the participial substantive, los desaparecidos, came
> > into English as a borrowing from Argentina’s dirty war and the women-led
> > protests against it, rather than the transitive or intransitive verb which
> > is the base of that participle. There’s a wiki page on the history,
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forced_disappearance. So the word history
> > in English is (pace Heller) the opposite of the derivational history in
> > Spanish.
> >
> > LH
> >
> >
> > > On Aug 26, 2020, at 8:08 PM, Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > The noun doesn't appear in Catch-22, so far as I remember.
> > >
> > > JL
> > >
> > > On Wed, Aug 26, 2020 at 7:09 PM Andy Bach <afbach at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> And after they've been disappeared (gmail non-transitively suggested
> > >> "after they've disappeared"), they are then "the disappeared" or "los
> > >> desaparecidos"
> > >>
> > >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirty_War
> > >> These individuals who suddenly vanished are called los desaparecidos,
> > >> meaning "the missing ones" or "disappeared".
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Wed, Aug 26, 2020 at 5:19 PM victor steinbok <aardvark66 at gmail.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> It's fairly common terminology among international human rights NGOs
> > >> AFAIK.
> > >>>
> > >>> VS
> > >>>
> > >>> On Wed, Aug 26, 2020, 15:03 Barretts Mail <mail.barretts at gmail.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> ---------------------- Information from the mail header
> > >>>> -----------------------
> > >>>> Sender: American Dialect Society <ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
> > >>>> Poster: Barretts Mail <mail.barretts at GMAIL.COM>
> > >>>> Subject: Re: "disappear" as a transitive verb
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Here is some more on this. BB
> > >>>>
> > >> http://listserv.linguistlist.org/pipermail/ads-l/2013-March/126192.html
> > =
> > >>>> <
> > >> http://listserv.linguistlist.org/pipermail/ads-l/2013-March/126192.html
> > >
> > >>>>
> > >> http://listserv.linguistlist.org/pipermail/ads-l/2013-March/126196.html
> > =
> > >>>> <
> > >> http://listserv.linguistlist.org/pipermail/ads-l/2013-March/126196.html
> > >
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> On 26 Aug 2020, at 11:41, James Landau =
> > >>>> <00000c13e57d49b8-dmarc-request at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU> wrote:
> > >>>>> =20
> > >>>>> In a mass email from one Scott Roberts at colorofchange.org, the =
> > >>>> heading was "Tampa police tried to disappear this Black woman".
> > >>>>> |=20
> > >>>>> | |
> > >>>>> =20
> > >>>>> =20
> > >>>>> James Landau
> > >>>>> jjjrlandau at netscape.com
> > >>>>> =20
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
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> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >>
> > >> a
> > >>
> > >> Andy Bach,
> > >> afbach at gmail.com
> > >> 608 658-1890 cell
> > >> 608 261-5738 wk
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