[Ads-l] Albany

[Laurence Horn]

Reminds me of the “albeit” case.  Just heard Judy Woodruff on the PBS News Hour pronounce it as “Al-BEE-it” instead of “all-BEE-it”, and she’s far from alone.  I guess the transparency ship has long since sailed.

LH

> On Nov 6, 2020, at 8:14 PM, Alice Faber <afaber at PANIX.COM> wrote:
> 
> AL-bany would be the Canadian pronunciation. (Canadian hockey commentators sometimes also refer to RALly, North Carolina. So, at least they're consistent.
> 
> Less facetiously, this is of course a special case of the general trend with regard to /a/ becoming /ae/ in borrowings in much of Canadian English.
> 
> AF
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> On 11/6/20 3:53 PM, Laurence Horn wrote:
>> Hmmm.  According to https://www.rogerogreen.com/2018/05/06/how-do-you-pronounce-albany-depends/, the Georgia city is pronounced “AIL-binee”. Other sites confirm this. I don’t see any that provide penultimate stress, whatever the initial vowel.  My mother was from Troy and always used the ALL-binny pronunciation for Albany, but she was born in 1914, well after your grandmother.  I’ve heard “AL-binny” on occasion for the New York capital (at least by some outlanders) but never the penult version; wonder how widespread it ever was. (I did learn to pronounce the name of its fellow upstate metropolis RAAA-ch at st@r, not RAH-ches-ter, during the four years I went to college there…)
>> 
>> LH
>> 
>>> On Nov 6, 2020, at 3:19 PM, Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Some years ago I may or may not have mentioned the time my grandmother told
>>> me that, in her youth, Albany, N.Y., was pronounced Awl-BAY-nee.  I found
>>> it hard to believe.
>>> 
>>> So you could have knocked me over with a feather when I just heard a
>>> Georgia election official pronounce Albany, Ga., in exactly that way.
>>> (Obviously old news to some here.)
>>> 
>>> I doubt that my grandmother (b. 1888 in Manhattan) ever heard of Albany, Ga.
>>> 
>>> So what happened in upstate NY?
>>> 
>>> JL
>>> 
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