[Ads-l] jive 1925 (antedate?)

Jonathan Lighter wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM
Thu Oct 15 09:26:18 EDT 2020


Stephen, I haven't checked, but a 1925 "collar" (understand) strikes me as
an antedating. "Collar the jive" was a set phrase in the '30s and '40s.

Wilson, unless I don't collar your drift, final position "though" sounds
perfectly normal and multiethnic to me.

JL

On Thu, Oct 15, 2020 at 8:26 AM Wilson Gray <hwgray at gmail.com> wrote:

> > And listen, folks just collar the new gown jive that the
> honest-to-goodness tea          > drinkers sprung on you _though_.
>
> This use of _though_ has been re-hipped, being very common in, e.g.
> BlackPeopleTwitter. What is old is new, again, though.
>
> On Wed, Oct 14, 2020 at 8:58 AM Stephen Goranson <goranson at duke.edu>
> wrote:
>
> > Inter-State Tattler [NY, NY; AmHistN] Friday, March 13, 1925 p. 11 col.
> 1.
> > Baltimore MD., A. Mole, Contributor.
> >
> > And listen, folks just collar the new gown jive that the
> > honest-to-goodness tea drinkers sprung on you though.
> >
> > [The word "that" is partly covered but appears probable.]
> > [If relevant:]
> > ....Martha M. even had some new tight-fitting frock on....
> >
> > Stephen Goranson
> >
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> -Wilson
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