[Ads-l] television ads for SALES

Laurence Horn laurence.horn at YALE.EDU
Tue Aug 31 15:39:04 UTC 2021


Yes, actually “coke” makes a lot of sense given the context, except for how it relates to goddesses.  I guess the Genius lyrics web site wasn’t around when we first listened to the song 50-odd years ago.  

> On Aug 31, 2021, at 11:24 AM, Marc Sacks <msacksg at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
> 
> " crazy Kali goddess"? I always heard it as "crazy coke goddess" or "crazy
> cult goddess," either of which makes more sense.
> 
> On Tue, Aug 31, 2021 at 9:19 AM Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
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>> But does it really matter, Larry?
>> 
>> Be free to be you.
>> 
>> (PS: "Crazy-colored' is better anyway.)
>> 
>> JL
>> 
>> On Mon, Aug 30, 2021 at 5:00 PM Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at yale.edu>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>>> On Aug 30, 2021, at 2:14 PM, Marc Sacks <msacksg at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Donovan's old song
>>>> 
>>>> On the firefly platform on Sunny Goodge Street
>>>> Violent hash-smoker shook a chocolate machine
>>>> Involved in an eating scene
>>>> 
>>>> seems relevant here. A few decades later it would be an eating event,
>> i=
>> f
>>> he
>>>> could get the rhyme down.
>>>> 
>>>> Marc Sacks
>>> 
>>> Hmmm.  I just checked the lyrics (to confirm my memory that Donovan
>>> employed the nominalization =E2=80=9Cstonedness=E2=80=9D, which I don=E2=
>> =80=99t think I=E2=80=99ve
>>> encountered elsewhere) and discovered a mondegreen on my part.  I always
>>> thought he was referring to a =E2=80=9Ccrazy-colored goddess=E2=80=9D,
>> bu=
>> t I see the line
>>> was actually something else. This is the first verse, immediately after
>> t=
>> he
>>> part Marc quoted:
>>> 
>>> Smashing into neon streets in their stonedness
>>> Smearing their eyes on the crazy Kali goddess
>>> Listenin' to sounds of Mingus mellow fantastic
>>> My, my, they sigh
>>> My, my, they sigh
>>> 
>>> I picked up on the "Mingus mellow fantastic=E2=80=9D (a distant relative
>> =
>> of mellow
>>> yellow?), but not the call-out to Kali. Luckily, She didn=E2=80=99t
>> exact=
>> revenge
>>> on me.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Mon, Aug 30, 2021 at 10:03 AM Jonathan Lighter <
>>> wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
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>>>>> A "major [sic] motion picture" is now likely to be a "[major] motion
>>>>> picture event."
>>>>> 
>>>>> I also seem to remember "[multi-] part television event.'
>>>>> 
>>>>> JL
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Sun, Aug 29, 2021 at 5:51 PM Charles C Doyle <cdoyle at uga.edu>
>> wrote=
>> :
>>>>> 
>>>>>> One almost never sees/hears an ad on TV for a "sale."  It's always a
>>>>>> "sales event."  I suppose the word "sale" strikes Madison Avenue as
>>>>>> declasse--like a rummage sale or a fire sale--whereas "event" implies
>>>>>> something noteworthy and exceptional.
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