[Ads-l] -ski, whatevski(s), broski

[Jonathan Lighter]

Leon Uris's blockbuster WW2 novel, _Battle Cry_ (1953) has "Toughsky
shitsky" (or -ski, I don't have the precise ref. handy). It's humorously
credited to "the Russian Marines."

Many Google hits right up till now.

JL

On Mon, Jul 5, 2021 at 10:52 AM Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at yale.edu>
wrote:

> And HDAS has a cite from 1902 with the spelling “buttinsky” (a reference
> to someone being a member of “the Buttinsky Family”).
>
> LH
>
> > On Jul 5, 2021, at 10:43 AM, Joe Salmons <
> 000008f18d0e0c45-dmarc-request at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU> wrote:
> >
> > In fact, buttinski may be the oldest really widespread one, judging from
> NGramViewer … it’s defined in a business article from 1909, link below.
> Green’s Dictionary of Slang (which has it starting as a campus thing) and
> looking very productive (darnfoolski, runski, toughsky titsky) in the early
> 20th c. Learn something every day.
> > Thanks, everybody!
> > Joe
> >
> >
> >
> https://www.google.com/books/edition/Business_Philosopher/HHBMAAAAYAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=%22buttinsky%22&pg=PA16&printsec=frontcover
> >
> >
> > From: American Dialect Society <ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU> on behalf of
> Stephen Goranson <goranson at DUKE.EDU>
> > Date: Monday, July 5, 2021 at 9:36 AM
> > To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU <ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
> > Subject: Re: -ski, whatevski(s), broski
> > If I may be a buttinsky....
> > SG
> > ________________________________
> > From: American Dialect Society <ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU> on behalf of
> Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at YALE.EDU>
> > Sent: Monday, July 5, 2021 10:32 AM
> > To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU <ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
> > Subject: Re: -ski, whatevski(s), broski
> >
> > A 1978 hit from an SNL episode is the earliest cite in Jon’s HDAS.  I
> assume that “brewski” was the clear sponsor of both “broski” and “bluntski”
> on phonological and semantic grounds respectively.
> >
> > LH
> >
> >> On Jul 5, 2021, at 9:33 AM, Joe Salmons <
> 000008f18d0e0c45-dmarc-request at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU> wrote:
> >>
> >> Brewski may well be the oldest one of the set, yeah, though I don’t
> have any evidence on that, but it’s clearly become at least somewhat
> productive.
> >>
> >> From: American Dialect Society <ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU> on behalf of
> Alan Knutson <boris1951 at CHARTER.NET>
> >> Date: Monday, July 5, 2021 at 8:32 AM
> >> To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU <ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
> >> Subject: Re: -ski, whatevski(s), broski
> >> Considering your location, I would have thought you had heard of a
> brewski?
> >>
> >> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
> >>
> >> From: Joe Salmons
> >> Sent: Monday, July 5, 2021 8:17 AM
> >> To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
> >> Subject: -ski, whatevski(s), broski
> >>
> >> SURELY somebody on this list has written about the -ski derivational
> suffix. I’ve heard/seen it in the two forms in the subject line – see
> ‘whatevs’ and ‘bro’ -- and Urban Dictionary points to broader use (“time
> for a bluntski”, etc.) I’m curious about how productive it is and what the
> origins might be. Intuitively, I could see some kind of Mock Slavic thing
> going on, but don’t know how to get evidence for that. Looking for
> basically anything on this one.
> >> Thanks,
> >> Joe
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