[Ads-l] lie

[Jonathan Lighter]

Cf.:
 https://www.yahoo.com/news/horses-cnn-contributor-slams-networks-161600893.html
<https://www.yahoo.com/news/horses-cnn-contributor-slams-networks-161600893.html>

"would you say that when you’re talking about a drug that has been given
out to billions and billions of people?” Rogan asked Gupta. “A drug that
the inventors won a Nobel Prize in 2015, a drug that has been shown to stop
viral replication in vitro. You know that, right? Why would they lie and
say that’s horse dewormer? [...] Do you think that that's a problem that
your news network lies?"

Ivermectin, the drug at issue, *is* a horse dewormer. The terminology was
complicated by the fact that it's also prescribed for parasitic river
blindness in humans. Rogan got a prescription for it (he doesn't have river
blindness).

Said in passing by Don Lemon, the characterization "horse dewormer" would
more accurately be called a "misnomer" or even a "tendentious choice of
words."

But nowadays it's a "lie."

JL


On Thu, Sep 23, 2021 at 3:39 PM Mark Mandel <markamandel at gmail.com> wrote:

> They lie flat, as opposed to flat-out lying
>
> MAM. .
>
> On Thu, Sep 23, 2021, 1:03 PM Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > So you can't trust the inconstant moon either.
> >
> > I trust the flat-earthers. They have no reason to lie.
> >
> > JL
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 23, 2021 at 12:25 PM Mark Mandel <markamandel at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Well, the Moon always lies *in the northern hemisphere*. In the Tropics
> > her
> > > path takes her through or near the zenith on her monthly apparent
> journey
> > > from east to west and the edge of the shadow is roughly parallel to
> that
> > > line, so it depends on which way you're facing. And in the southern
> > > hemisphere she tells the truth.
> > >
> > > Mark A. Mandel
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Sep 22, 2021, 4:38 PM Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at yale.edu>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > > On Sep 22, 2021, at 4:03 PM, Jonathan Lighter <
> > wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> https://www.yahoo.com/news/thought-knew-sun-color-lie-133422094.html
> > :
> > > > >
> > > > > What You Thought You Knew About the Sun’s Color Is a Lie
> > > > >
> > > > > (People say it's yellow, but it's really white. Liars!)
> > > > >
> > > > > JL
> > > >
> > > > I don’t know—from the write-up it looks like it’s the sun that's the
> > > > liar.  I was told the moon always lies (it makes a capital D when
> it’s
> > > > crescent and a C when it’s decrescent), but apparently you can’t
> trust
> > > any
> > > > heavenly bodies.  Or even Springsteen:
> > > >
> > > > The piss-yellow sun
> > > > Comes bringing up the day
> > > > She said "Ain't nobody can give nobody
> > > > What they really need anyway”
> > > > (“Dry Lightning”)
> > > >
> > > > Is nothing sacred?
> > > >
> > > > LH
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, Aug 13, 2021 at 10:19 AM Dan Goncharoff <
> thegonch at gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> Interesting how one deals with opinions expressed as facts,
> > especially
> > > > when
> > > > >> they are found to be wrong later. Are they Schrodinger statements,
> > > only
> > > > >> found to be true or false once we "open the box"?
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On Fri, Aug 13, 2021, 10:05 AM Jonathan Lighter <
> > > wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com
> > > > >
> > > > >> wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> 'any idea or statement that is untrue or that one disagrees
> with.'
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> I've been hearing this a lot on cable news, though not from
> > > > journalists.
> > > > >>> Ex.:
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Quora.com:  "Electrons absolutely positively do not whizz around
> > the
> > > > >>> nucleus of an atom. That idea is a lie-to-children, a
> > simplification
> > > > told
> > > > >>> [to] young kids in grade school."
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> CNN: "Rugged individualism is a lie."
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Also v.:
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Protest sign seen on FOX News: "FAUCI LIED PEOPLE DIED"
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> JL
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> --
> > > > >>> "If the truth is half as bad as I think it is, you can't handle
> the
> > > > >> truth."
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