[Ads-l] Blive

[Paul A Johnston]

That would make sense--a post-GVS "occasional spelling".  Are there any cognates of German "bleiben"--i don't know what the OHG or MHG vowel was, and i didn't think it was /i:/, but if it were, it would give "b(e)live" in Early modern English.  The senses don't match, unless the OHG was different from the Modern language. 'Believe" itself is a little weird, as i recall it, it was beleafan" (long vowel) in OE, the same root as "glauben" < OHG gilouban" and a different prefix.  This should turn into an open /E:/ in Early Modern English, but i can't mind a relic of this in modern diaects, and 1600 is a little early for an <i> spelling in the ancestor of the Standard, though possible in other dialects.
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I should say, with a date of 1600 attached.

On Thu, Jul 14, 2022 at 3:33 PM Chris Waigl <chris at lascribe.net> wrote:

> It's in there as a spelling variant of believe (v.). Do you want all the
> definitions?
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> On Thu, Jul 14, 2022 at 3:02 PM David Daniel <dad at coarsecourses.com>
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>> Hi, can someone with access please tell me if "blive" is in the OED and,
>> if so, it's definition?
>> Thanks,
>> DAD
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