[Ads-l] Blive

[Paul A Johnston]

Thanks, David.  the verb is the cognate i was looking for, and it must be OHG/MHG and OE/.ME /i:/.
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Thanks, guys. This came up in Wordle, not as a solution word, but as an
acceptable guess word. And I just thought that was really odd because it
wasn't in M-W or Oxford online. (I didn't use it as a guess word, someone
else did.) Yourdictionary.com has it as: (intransitive) Alternative form of
belive ("to remain"); (obsolete) Quickly; forthwith. But they also have
other obscure words that mainstream dictionaries don't, such as "blivit,"
which I had only seen written as "blivet," meaning ten pounds of shit in a
five pound bag. OED having it as a variant of "believe" is something else
again. Thanks, again.
DAD

Poster:       Paul A Johnston <paul.johnston at WMICH.EDU>
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That would make sense--a post-GVS "occasional spelling".  Are there any cog=
nates of German "bleiben"--i don't know what the OHG or MHG vowel was, and =
i didn't think it was /i:/, but if it were, it would give "b(e)live" in Ear=
ly modern English.  The senses don't match, unless the OHG was different fr=
om the Modern language. 'Believe" itself is a little weird, as i recall it,=
it was beleafan" (long vowel) in OE, the same root as "glauben" < OHG gilo=
uban" and a different prefix.  This should turn into an open /E:/ in Early =
Modern English, but i can't mind a relic of this in modern diaects, and 160=
0 is a little early for an <i> spelling in the ancestor of the Standard, th=
ough possible in other dialects.
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I should say, with a date of 1600 attached.

On Thu, Jul 14, 2022 at 3:33 PM Chris Waigl <chris at lascribe.net> wrote:

> It's in there as a spelling variant of believe (v.). Do you want all
> the definitions?
>
> On Thu, Jul 14, 2022 at 3:02 PM David Daniel <dad at coarsecourses.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi, can someone with access please tell me if "blive" is in the OED
>> and, if so, it's definition?
>> Thanks,
>> DAD
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