[Ads-l] A good walk spoiled

Shapiro, Fred fred.shapiro at YALE.EDU
Sun Jul 24 18:32:34 UTC 2022


Very nice discoveries, Pete !  Of course, it probably still was not a Twainism, but your citations make the chronology possible.

Fred Shapiro


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Subject: A good walk spoiled

"Golf  ...  a good walk spoiled" - not Mark Twain.

In the podcast linked above, Fred says that the quote is not known
before 1913.  I've found a few precursors.

Caveats about google dating apply.

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possibly 1901.  attributed to a "well-known jockey"

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The Boss of Little Arcady,
by Harry Leon Wilson   1905

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Again: "This new game of golf that the summer folks play seems to have
too much walking for a good game and just enough game to spoil a good
walk." Golf in the Little Country!

I'm going to guess that this is the source that popularized the phrase,
if not invented it.

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possibly 1908.
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The Will of Allah by Kathlyn Rhodes

Personally I utterly deny the fascination of golf as a game ; to me it
always seems like a good walk spoilt . I simply hate having to pull up
every hundred yards and look about for a stupid little ball , and hit it
into an equally ...

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possibly 1906.  The "well-known jockey" again.
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possibly 1911
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possibly 1912

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one for Quote Investigator, perhaps?


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