[Ads-l] "seven toed pete" (UNCLASSIFIED)

Jonathan Lighter wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM
Sun Apr 2 20:07:25 UTC 2023


1917 _Weekly Reflex_ (Kaysville, Ut.) (March 8) 8: Mr. and Mrs. J. B.
Cooley entertained a small party of friends at cards last Saturday evening.
The game was Seven-Toed Pete and T.A. Martin was the coach for the
occasion. The game is liable to prove a popular one.

JL

On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 11:05 AM Mullins, Bill CIV (US) <
william.d.mullins18.civ at mail.mil> wrote:

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> Date is 23 Jun 1918.
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> > > On Jul 20, 2015, at 2:10 PM, Mullins, Bill CIV (US) =3D
> > <william.d.mullins18.civ at MAIL.MIL> wrote:
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> > > Jonathan Lighter on the list in 2013:
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> > >> Means "seven-card stud." Not in OED. I heard it in the late '50s and
> > >>brought it to the attention of the List in 2005.
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> > >> 1919 _Evening Herald_ (Klamath Falls, Ore.) (Aug. 13) 4: Nifty with =
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> > >> cards, especially Seven-Toed Pete.
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> > >> 1922 _Bellingham Herald_ (June 28) 9: Black-jack, faro, roulette,
> > >>seven-toed Pete, draw, African golf and crackola.
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> > What's the date on this?
> > > Portland OR _Oregon Daily Journal_ p 21 col 2 "The hands were drawn in
> > > what is known as the "Seven-toed-Pete" game =3D
> > and first P. P. held a heart royal flush and second P. P held a diamond =
> =3D royal flush."
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> > I've been playing poker since the early 70s (not the 50s) and have never
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> =3D encountered "Seven-toed Pete" for 7-card stud (or any other
> > game), but =3D have come across "Three-toed Pete" for a dealer's choice
> v=
> ariant (I =3D think it's the one in which three of a kind is the best hand
> > and a =3D straight beats a flush, based on relative probabilities).  One
> =
> card is =3D dealt down and two up, with rounds of betting in between, so it
> > is =3D formally a stud rather than draw game, and it can be played
> straig=
> ht =3D high or high-low; in the latter case, the best low hand is 3-2-A.
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