[Ads-l] Personal pronouns modified with relative clauses

[Jonathan Lighter]

Trump's use of "who" sounds perfectly normal to me, though formal and
perhaps antiquated.

I recall a grammar question from sixty years ago (God knows where) that
asked "Which is correct?"

1. Confide in me, who is your friend.

2. Confide in me, who am your friend.

The correct answer, of course, was 2.

JL

On Mon, Jun 5, 2023 at 7:31 PM Barretts Mail <mail.barretts at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Thank you for that example. I also thought of a couple of examples as I
> was writing my email. For some reason “me, who did nothing wrong” sounds
> ungrammatical to me, maybe because it’s restrictive. Not sure. BB
>
> > On Jun 5, 2023, at 15:30, Chris Waigl <chris at LASCRIBE.NET> wrote:
> >
> > I don't know. May he who is without sin throw the first stone.
> >
> > Chris
> > (jokingly)
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 5, 2023 at 2:09 PM Barretts Mail <mail.barretts at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> My recollection is that one of the reasons some people doubt that
> Japanese
> >> “pronouns” are actually pronouns is that they can take relative clauses,
> >> and that in languages like English, they cannot. To invent an example in
> >> both languages:
> >>
> >> スーパにいた僕を見た。(suupa-ni ita boku-wo mita)
> >> * (somebody) saw me who was in the grocery store.
> >>
> >> Today I saw an article in which former President Donald Trump violates
> >> this rule. Here is that article and another quote. Is this idiolect or
> >> dialect?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-asks-can-doj-charge-lawyers-meet-feds-rcna87770
> >> Dareh Gregorian
> >> 5 Jun 2023
> >> ###
> >> "How can DOJ possibly charge me, who did nothing wrong, when no other
> >> president's were charged," Trump wrote on Truth Social in an all-caps
> post.
> >> ###
> >>
> >>
> >>
> https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/26/politics/donald-trump-press-conference-analysis/index.html
> >> Chris Cillizza
> >> 26 Sep 2018
> >> ###
> >> “I’ve been accused … by four or five women, who got paid a lot of money
> to
> >> make up stories about me who made a lot of money,” Trump said.
> >> ###
> >>
> >> Benjamin Barrett (he/his/him)
> >> Formerly of Seattle, WA
> >>
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> >
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