[Ads-l] hearsay

[Jonathan Lighter]

2023 https://www.imdb.com/title/tt21451264/reviews?ref_=tt_urv :
Eyewitness accounts are notoriously unreliable, especially form [sic] 28
years ago. They are hearsay.

As previously, the focus is on the hearer, not the speaker: "an unproved
statement about something I didn't experience personally (and can therefore
ignore)." Cf.:

2011 https://tfn.org/why-historians-dont-respect-barton/  : Most of what is
taught as history is hearsay.

MW offers the def. "rumor," but that doesn't quite cover the exx. on this
thread.

JL

On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 7:02 AM Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> What matters is that "hearsay" is second-hand.
>
> The claims of the women were first-hand.
>
>
>  JL
>
> On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 8:56 PM, Peter Reitan <pjreitan at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> If a supposed eyewitness says it under oath in court where it can be
>> cross-examined, it is not hearsay.  I haven't heard any eyewitnesses say
>> anything, much less in court.
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>> From: Jonathan Lighter<mailto:wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM>
>> Sent: ‎12/‎14/‎2017 17:53
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>> If a supposed eyewitness says it, it may be false or questionable or
>> unsupportable, but it ain't "hearsay," which must be at least second-hand.
>>
>> I checked with my lawyer.
>>
>> JL
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 8:46 PM, Peter Reitan <pjreitan at hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Well, since all most of us know is from second or third -hand news
>> > reports, they are not wrong in the dictionary and legal senses of the
>> wor=
>> d,
>> > even if they did misunderstand it, which isn't clear.  But of course,
>> jus=
>> t
>> > because it's hearsay doesn't mean we can't draw our own collusions about
>> > the veracity of the accusations.
>> > ________________________________
>> > From: Wilson Gray<mailto:hwgray at GMAIL.COM>
>> > Sent: =E2=80=8E12/=E2=80=8E14/=E2=80=8E2017 17:33
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>> > These good, Chrishtun people more likely were saying "heresy." <har!
>> har!=
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 8:11 AM, Jonathan Lighter <
>> wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com=
>> >
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > > In the past several days I've heard two very working-class Roy Moore
>> > voters
>> > > on TV saying they disbelieved Moore's accusers because the accusations
>> > were
>> > > "hearsay."
>> > >
>> > > In the paradigm ex., one said that you could "tell it was hearsay"
>> just
>> > by
>> > > looking at them.
>> > >
>> > > 'An accusation of wrongdoing unsupported by evidence.'
>> > >
>> > > JL
>> > >
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