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Sat May 27 10:58:29 UTC 2023

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A hot new conspiracy theory has dropped — and this one is a
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that the International Space Station, which has been orbiting the Earth for
well over two decades, is actually an underwater Hollywood soundstage.

[They're lying about the earth being round, so why not this?
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/kandiss-taylor-globes-anti-flat-earth-brainwashing-1234741082/
]

JL

On Tue, May 23, 2023 at 3:51 PM Charles C Rice <charles.rice at louisiana.edu>
wrote:

> Thank you so much for that, Garson. I missed the OED entry under
> lightening n. I also wonder why it is defined as a feeling rather than the
> actual dropping down of the uterus, given that the example states clearly
> that the uterus drops. I also see that there is another term given in the
> 1870 source, the child “falls”. It stands to reason that people would have
> been talking about this since, well, forever. So there must have been one
> or some similar terms in every stage and dialect of English.
>
> Clai Rice
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> Thanks for posting about this interesting sense for drop, Clai.
> The OED has the following under "lightening":
>
> [Begin excerpt from OED]
> lightening, n.2
> 2 b. The feeling experienced by a pregnant woman after the uterus
> descends into the pelvis and lessens pressure within the abdomen,
> occurring some days before the onset of labour; (also) the process of
> descent of the uterus into the pelvis.
>
> 1876   W. S. Playfair Treat. Sci. & Pract. Midwifery I. 131   This
> change is familiar to all childbearing women, to whom it is known as
> ‘the lightening before labour’.
> . . .
> 2004   S. Jones & M. Jones Great Expectations ii. 123/2   Once your
> baby drops as you near your delivery date, called lightening, you'll
> discover the luxury of being able to take deep breaths again.
> [End excerpt from OED]
>
> The 2004 citation contains "baby drops".
> Here is a citation for “dropping” in the pertinent sense although it
> refers to the dropping of the womb instead of the dropping of a baby.
>
> Year: 1870
> Book title: Advice to a Wife on the Management of Her Own Health
> Author: Pye Henry Chavasse
> Part 3: Labour
> Quote Page 166
> Publisher: John Churchill and Sons, London
>
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> <
> https://books.google.com/books?id=j3BaAAAAcAAJ&q=%22dropping+of%22#v=snippet&
> >
>
> [Begin excerpt - double check for typos]
> 472. A few days, sometimes a few hours, before labour commences, the
> child "falls" as it is called, that is to say, there is a subsidence-a
> dropping-of the womb lower down the belly. This is the reason why she
> feels lighter and more comfortable, and more inclined to take
> exercise, and why she can breathe more freely.
>
> 473. The only inconvenience of the subsidence of the womb is, that the
> womb presses on the bladder, and sometimes causes an irritability of
> that organ, inducing a frequent desire to make water.
>
> 474. The subsidence-the dropping-of the womb may then be considered
> one of the earliest of the precursory symptoms of childbirth, and as
> the herald of the coming event.
> [End excerpt]
>
> Garson
>
> On Tue, May 23, 2023 at 1:14 PM Charles C Rice
> <charles.rice at louisiana.edu> wrote:
> >
> > I have heard about babies dropping (intr) for many years and this
> conversation convinced me to look it up. As I understood it--not an expert
> in midwifery--it had something to do with the positioning of the fetus
> lower in the pelvis in preparation for birth. Some people would use the
> timing or extent of this event to predict the baby's sex. I don't see
> anything like this meaning in OED. I'm not aware of any strong critique of
> OED regarding gender bias in word selection or defining, but this omission
> might be an example of such.
> >
> > When Does Baby Drop? What is Lightening in Pregnancy?:
> https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.peanut-app.io%2Fblog%2Fwhen-does-baby-drop&data=05%7C01%7Ccharles.rice%40LOUISIANA.EDU%7C268723c46a024f1b0eac08db5bbe6b86%7C13b3b0cecd7549a4bfea0a03b01ff1ab%7C1%7C0%7C638204645658721972%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=e1FH824CilrqqgZO%2B5woJjZV4mkNMz5R%2Fa%2BwWqcxPDI%3D&reserved=0
> <https://www.peanut-app.io/blog/when-does-baby-drop>
> > May 11. 2023--blog entry with an explanation, "lucky for you, we’re here
> to drop some baby-dropping knowledge."
> >
> > What does it feel like when baby drops – 8 telling signs! September 10,
> 2020:
> https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fkiindred.co%2Fpregnancy%2Flabour-and-birth%2Fwhat-does-it-feel-like-when-baby-drops%2F&data=05%7C01%7Ccharles.rice%40LOUISIANA.EDU%7C268723c46a024f1b0eac08db5bbe6b86%7C13b3b0cecd7549a4bfea0a03b01ff1ab%7C1%7C0%7C638204645658721972%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=yvrNKx371%2Flwodtq4dI5KKdh9ePjwBa8yCBs3X%2FyBUo%3D&reserved=0
> <
> https://kiindred.co/pregnancy/labour-and-birth/what-does-it-feel-like-when-baby-drops/
> >
> > "Your baby dropping is also often referred to as ‘lightening’ or being
> ‘engaged’"
> > These other two terms are also not included in OED with this meaning.
> >
> > Karen Williamson, The Caesarian Controversy, Xenia Daily Gazette, Xenia,
> Ohio. Dec 2, 1982, Page 4
> >
> https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fnewspaperarchive.com%2Fxenia-daily-gazette-dec-02-1982-p-4%2F&data=05%7C01%7Ccharles.rice%40LOUISIANA.EDU%7C268723c46a024f1b0eac08db5bbe6b86%7C13b3b0cecd7549a4bfea0a03b01ff1ab%7C1%7C0%7C638204645658721972%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=D8dEH7m5zmZpzGQV71j470CIWYXvo4DIfjQjTusjL9o%3D&reserved=0
> <https://newspaperarchive.com/xenia-daily-gazette-dec-02-1982-p-4/>
> > "During the second pregnancy the baby dropped to the head or down
> position, so I knew she was not likely to be breech. Two weeks ahead of my
> due date, I went into labor..."
> >
> > I've pushed it back a little further to 1978 using newspaperarchive.com
> but will have to continue this search later. My guess is it will go back
> pretty far if we find the right publications, those intended for women with
> information about pregnancy and birth issues. Possibly nursing or midwife
> training materials.
> >
> > Clai
> >
> >
> >
> >
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