[Ads-l] General Suggestion

[dave@wilton.net]

My opinion:
 
As for how to cite a source here, there isn't a specific format. Include as much of the standard info (author, date, title, journal/collection title, database and links for online sources, etc.) as is available.
 
The reader being able to easily locate the source is the important thing (recognizing that URLs alone are not sufficient; they are often paywalled or quickly become dead links; other info is needed for those searching the archives).
 
As for what words/phrases/pronunciations to post, new/antedated items, new/antedated senses, new/antedated contexts are welcome. If there's an ongoing discussion, other early (not necessarily the earliest) and interdated examples are good.
 
Basically, if a usage strikes you as interesting, it will probably be of interest to others. 
 
And while many of us use ADS-L primarily to discuss new and antedated terms, basically any topic of linguistic interest is fair game.
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: "Emily Gordon" <emdashes at GMAIL.COM>
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2024 9:27pm
To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
Subject: Re: [ADS-L] General Suggestion



Is there a general guide for newcomers about what and how to
post/cite/illustrate? I often see new (to me) words, especially in social
media spelunking, but I don't know if they qualify for the forum.

Thank you!

Emily

On Mon, Apr 15, 2024 at 6:23 PM ADSGarson O'Toole <adsgarsonotoole at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Fred and Dave’s suggestion is worthwhile. For more than a decade I
> have usually included the name of the database within a citation.
>
> The first articles on the Quote Investigator website appeared in 2010.
> The biographical notes employed a custom format with the date listed
> first and the database listed last. Also, the QI citations link to
> public domain books in the Google Books database when available.
>
> Some citations are verified with scans sent to me by librarians,
> colleagues, or friends.
>
> Note, some databases. e.g., the Internet Archive, are under relentless
> attack in the court system.
>
> Admittedly, I do not always specify the database or the precise method
> of verification. If you are a researcher, and you require details for
> a citation please contact me off list.
>
> Garson
>
> On Mon, Apr 15, 2024 at 2:49 PM dave at wilton.net <dave at wilton.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> > I would like to second this. It's especially important for newspapers
> (there are lots of newspaper databases out there) but true for all types of
> sources.
> >
> > And I hope that professional lexicographers are paying attention. Almost
> all dictionaries are woefully deficient in their source citation practices.
> (If dictionaries were student papers, I would fail them for a lack of
> usable citations.) While minimizing the amount of column inches was once an
> important cost factor back in the days of print, for digital resources
> there is no reason not to include a complete citation that readers can
> follow to identify and locate the source.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: "Shapiro, Fred" <fred.shapiro at YALE.EDU>
> > Sent: Monday, April 15, 2024 11:33am
> > To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
> > Subject: [ADS-L] General Suggestion
> >
> >
> >
> > I have long noticed that sometimes when people on ADS-L post about a
> citation of word usage, they don't indicate which database they found it
> in. The database information is very helpful if someone wants to see the
> context of the word usage.
> >
> > Fred Shapiro
> >
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