[Ads-l] General Suggestion

[Emily Gordon]

Thanks, Dave!

On Tue, Apr 16, 2024 at 6:09 AM dave at wilton.net <dave at wilton.net> wrote:

>
> My opinion:
>
> As for how to cite a source here, there isn't a specific format. Include
> as much of the standard info (author, date, title, journal/collection
> title, database and links for online sources, etc.) as is available.
>
> The reader being able to easily locate the source is the important thing
> (recognizing that URLs alone are not sufficient; they are often paywalled
> or quickly become dead links; other info is needed for those searching the
> archives).
>
> As for what words/phrases/pronunciations to post, new/antedated items,
> new/antedated senses, new/antedated contexts are welcome. If there's an
> ongoing discussion, other early (not necessarily the earliest) and
> interdated examples are good.
>
> Basically, if a usage strikes you as interesting, it will probably be of
> interest to others.
>
> And while many of us use ADS-L primarily to discuss new and antedated
> terms, basically any topic of linguistic interest is fair game.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Emily Gordon" <emdashes at GMAIL.COM>
> Sent: Monday, April 15, 2024 9:27pm
> To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
> Subject: Re: [ADS-L] General Suggestion
>
>
>
> Is there a general guide for newcomers about what and how to
> post/cite/illustrate? I often see new (to me) words, especially in social
> media spelunking, but I don't know if they qualify for the forum.
>
> Thank you!
>
> Emily
>
> On Mon, Apr 15, 2024 at 6:23 PM ADSGarson O'Toole <
> adsgarsonotoole at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Fred and Dave’s suggestion is worthwhile. For more than a decade I
> > have usually included the name of the database within a citation.
> >
> > The first articles on the Quote Investigator website appeared in 2010.
> > The biographical notes employed a custom format with the date listed
> > first and the database listed last. Also, the QI citations link to
> > public domain books in the Google Books database when available.
> >
> > Some citations are verified with scans sent to me by librarians,
> > colleagues, or friends.
> >
> > Note, some databases. e.g., the Internet Archive, are under relentless
> > attack in the court system.
> >
> > Admittedly, I do not always specify the database or the precise method
> > of verification. If you are a researcher, and you require details for
> > a citation please contact me off list.
> >
> > Garson
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 15, 2024 at 2:49 PM dave at wilton.net <dave at wilton.net> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > I would like to second this. It's especially important for newspapers
> > (there are lots of newspaper databases out there) but true for all types
> of
> > sources.
> > >
> > > And I hope that professional lexicographers are paying attention.
> Almost
> > all dictionaries are woefully deficient in their source citation
> practices.
> > (If dictionaries were student papers, I would fail them for a lack of
> > usable citations.) While minimizing the amount of column inches was once
> an
> > important cost factor back in the days of print, for digital resources
> > there is no reason not to include a complete citation that readers can
> > follow to identify and locate the source.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: "Shapiro, Fred" <fred.shapiro at YALE.EDU>
> > > Sent: Monday, April 15, 2024 11:33am
> > > To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
> > > Subject: [ADS-L] General Suggestion
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I have long noticed that sometimes when people on ADS-L post about a
> > citation of word usage, they don't indicate which database they found it
> > in. The database information is very helpful if someone wants to see the
> > context of the word usage.
> > >
> > > Fred Shapiro
> > >
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