[Ads-l] Fw: Thinking class / Cognitive class / Knowledge class

[Z S]

"Knowledge worker" implicitly suggests other professions do not involve the
utilization of knowledge. The definition is not in question, the term is.
It's rather inelegant, patronizing (as mentioned earlier here regarding
such terms), and not at all precise. It sounds like it's derived from a
time in which the majority worked in factories or fields.

As a side note, Oxford states:
knowledge worker: a person whose job involves handling or using information.

Coincidentally, "Thinking people" occurs in the translation of the recent
Putin interview.

"This is an obvious fact and *thinking people -* not Philistines, but
thinking people...analysts, those who are engaged in real politics, just *smart
people* - understand perfectly well that this is a fake."

Best,
Zola S.


On Wed, Feb 7, 2024 at 8:36 PM Dan Goncharoff <thegonch at gmail.com> wrote:

> All jobs require some knowledge.
>
> Some jobs require only knowledge. Those are done by knowledge workers.
>
> On Wed, Feb 7, 2024, 12:18 PM Z S <zrice3714 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I'm not convinced that the two are parallel. Cognition/thought and
> > knowledge are basic to all human beings - hence the term *homo sapiens*.
> > Even the farmer has specialized, scientific knowledge...so does the
> cement
> > worker (in the case of the documentary). If you put any of us in the
> > Amazon, we most likely lack the inherited, cumulative body of
> specialized,
> > scientific knowledge required to survive more than a year. The tailor in
> > Italy or the home seamstress/pattern drafter possesses a specialized
> > knowledge of geometry, arithmetic, space, and form (as well as anatomy)
> > that allows him or her the ability to create or manipulate 3D objects by
> > using complex calculations and a flat surface. If you put any of us
> > (without their specialized knowledge) in their place of work, we'd likely
> > come away with a sarong or toga, at best.
> >
> > On the other hand, many people will easily admit to lacking creativity -
> > and it has no implications as far as class or intelligence, nor does it
> > dehumanize. Some jobs don't demand creativity and try to outright
> prohibit
> > it! However, all jobs require knowledge, human thought, or "cognition".
> >
> > Knowledge worker, thinking class, cognitive class, knowledge class -
> > they're terms that 1) diminish the the skills and knowledge necessary for
> > various professions and economic classes and 2) dehumanize
> (understatement)
> > by denying the very existence of knowledge and human thought among
> specific
> > classes and professions.
> >
> > Best,
> > Zola S.
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 7, 2024 at 1:33 PM Amy West <medievalist at w-sts.com> wrote:
> >
> > > It calls to mind the parallel construction "creative class".
> > >
> > > ---Amy West
> > >
> > > On 2/7/24 12:00 AM, ADS-L automatic digest system wrote:
> > > > Date:    Tue, 6 Feb 2024 23:24:50 +0100
> > > > From:    Z S<zrice3714 at GMAIL.COM>
> > > > Subject: Re: Fw: Thinking class / Cognitive class / Knowledge class
> > > >
> > > > Just confirmed a suspicion: in the documentary*Spies of Mississippi*,
> > one
> > > > of the witnesses states that her uncle, B.L. Bell, referred to his
> > class
> > > as
> > > > "the thinking class people". (I just went back and scrubbed through
> the
> > > > film to check.)
> > > >
> > > > (Timestamp 17:07 to 17:42)
> > > >
> > > > https://youtu.be/JX925i-llQk?feature=shared&t=1027
> > > >
> > > > These terms sound as antiquated as they are. Interesting - to say the
> > > least
> > > > - that they're so freely used today by the media.
> > > >
> > > > Best,
> > > > Zola Sohna
> > >
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