[Ads-l] "Natty" = 'national champion(ship)'

[Emily Gordon]

And don't forget (fictional character) Natty Bumppo from James Fenimore
Cooper's "Leatherstocking Tales":

https://www.britannica.com/topic/Natty-Bumppo

Presumably short for Nathaniel:

https://www.newyorkalmanack.com/2020/06/james-fenimore-cooper-who-is-the-real-natty-bumppo/

And ridiculed by Mark Twain:

https://twain.lib.virginia.edu/projects/rissetto/offense.html

Intrigued by this 1927 article in *American Speech*: "Nifty, Hefty, Natty,
Snappy <https://www.jstor.org/stable/451513>" (via JSTOR)

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Emily

On Tue, Jan 9, 2024 at 2:39 PM ADSGarson O'Toole <adsgarsonotoole at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Gordon, Matthew J. wrote:
> > I haven’t heard this usage but note that there’s a precedent
> > for “natty” < “national” in “Natty Boh”  as the nickname for
> > National Bohemian, a beer that was popular among poor
> > college students when I was one.
>
> In 1985 an article in "The Evening Sun" of Baltimore discussed the
> 100th anniversary of National Bohemian Beer and used the term "Natty
> Boh" as mentioned by Matt.
>
> Date: February 6, 1985
> Newspaper: The Evening Sun
> Newspaper Location: Baltimore, Maryland
> Article:  Chester Peake lends a hand in celebration
> Author: Tom Osborne (Financial Editor)
> Quote Page F1, Column 2
> Database: Newspapers.com
>
> [Begin excerpt]
> Good old Natty Boh--a Maryland original is still made here at
> Heileman's Lansdowne brewery just off the Beltway.
> [End excerpt]
>
> In 1993 a student newspaper for Middlebury College referred to cases
> of "Natty Light" which I believe corresponds to Natural Light beer. So
> there are at least two senses of "natty" in the beer domain:
>
> Date: November 4, 1993
> Newspaper: The Middlebury Campus
> Newspaper Location: Middlebury, Vermont
> Article:  Informal student survey finds bad habits, good parties
> Author: David Huneryager
> Quote Page 18, Column 1
> Database: Internet Archive via archive.org
>
> [Begin excerpt]
> No one can deny that alcohol is a big part of a typical Middlebury
> weekend. Considering that the trash cans in dorm lobbies are full of
> Natty Light cases most Saturdays, it seemed an especially fitting day
> to conduct a poll concerning alcohol at Middlebury.
> [End excerpt]
>
> Green’s Dictionary of Slang has a few senses for "natty", but none
> correspond to "national".
>
> natty, n.1 a spruce, smart person; a dandy.
> natty, n.2 1. dreadlocks. 2. a person with dreadlocks.
> natty, adj. 1. of individuals, well-dressed, smart. 2. of objects,
> typically clothing, neat, spruce. 3. adept with the hands; skilful in
> any manner.
> natty lad (n.) a young thief or pickpocket.
>
> Garson
>
>
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> > Date: Monday, January 8, 2024 at 10:19 PM
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> > I’ve been hearing this truncation for a while, and again tonight (for
> obvious reasons).  Not sure how long it’s been around. Somewhat interesting
> phonologically, given that its derivation involves de-spirantization.
> >
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