[Ads-l] "Natty" = 'national champion(ship)'

[Laurence Horn]

Yes, it seems as though the clipping is derived from the orthography rather than the phonology, but that’s part of a pattern for pronouncing truncations little understood (at least by me), as also exemplified by “Soash” for “Sociology”, which is never itself pronounced with a palatalized <c>.  “Social work” yes, but not “sociology”.  

By the same token, the various incarnations of “Natty” for “Natural” (as in Natty Light beer and the others brought up in the thread) ought to be “Natch” or “Natchy”, not “Natty”.

> On Jan 14, 2024, at 9:01 AM, Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
> 
> Why not the "Nash"?
> 
> Just asking.
> 
> JL
> 
> On Fri, Jan 12, 2024 at 11:00 PM ADSGarson O'Toole <
> adsgarsonotoole at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Excellent citations, Bill.
>> Here are two citations for a slightly different sense. "Natty" below
>> refers to the national championship game instead of the national
>> championship.
>> 
>> Date: January 8, 2008
>> Channel: NBC - 4 KFOR
>> Channel Location: Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
>> Time Start: 5AM - 05:00:08
>> Database: NewsBank Access World News
>> 
>> [Begin excerpt]
>> COMING UP...
>> AND SOME CALL IT THE NATTY -- NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP GAME.
>> THOUGH THIS YEAR MAY BE NATTY LIGHT.
>> THAT'S BECAUSE A TWO LOSS TEAM WON THE TROPHY.
>> THEY'RE JUST ONE OF NINE TEAMS WITH TWO OR LESS LOSSES TO END THE SEASON.
>> WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT THE FINAL GAME -- STRAIGHT AHEAD ON NEWSCHANNEL
>> [End excerpt]
>> 
>> Year: 2009
>> Book Title: Always Compete: An Inside Look At Pete Carroll and the USC
>> Football Juggernaut
>> Author: Steve Bisheff
>> Chapter 8: Game Eleven: A Great, Historic Rivalry or an Annual Mismatch?
>> Quote Page 215
>> Publisher: St. Martin's Press, New York
>> Database: Internet Archive Archive.org
>> 
>> [Begin excerpt]
>> "The thing is, those teams also give up 30 or 40 points every game.
>> I'd love to see USC-Florida or USC-Texas. I'd like to see how those
>> teams would do against our defense, but you know, that one half at
>> Oregon State got us. One half is going to keep us out of the Natty
>> [national championship game] this year, and that hurts."
>> [End excerpt]
>> 
>> Garson
>> 
>> On Fri, Jan 12, 2024 at 4:15 PM Bill Mullins <amcombill at hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 2004 Daily Oklahoman 29 May 2C/4
>>> 
>>> We're just here to bring liberty and justice to the world of softball
>> and to bring another natty (national championship) back to UCLA.
>>> 
>>> 
>> https://www.newspapers.com/image/452750382/?terms=%22natty%20national%22&match=1
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 2013 Tampa Tribune Sports 19 Aug 6/1
>>> 
>>> What makes people think we can't win a NATTY.
>>> 
>>> https://www.newspapers.com/image/343251723/?terms=%22win%20a%20natty%22
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 2016 Miami Herald 3 Oct B1/5
>>> 
>>> If we don't beat them and get a Natty [national title] in the time that
>> we're here, we haven't done Miami justice.
>>> 
>>> 
>> https://www.newspapers.com/image/659479297/?terms=%22get%20a%20natty%22&match=1
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 2017 Opelika-Auburn News 11 Jul 4B/6
>>> 
>>> Maybe we would have somehow won a natty.
>>> 
>>> 
>> https://www.newspapers.com/image/983940938/?terms=%22won%20a%20natty%22&match=1
>>> 
>>> 
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