[Ads-l] Quote: If there are no cigars in heaven, I shall not go (attributed to Mark Twain)
mr_peter_morris@outlook.com
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Mon Jan 13 21:07:30 UTC 2025
https://www.google.co.uk/books/edition/Portland_Transcript/M1iCsWiMbhIC?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=smoking+%22heaven%22+%22don%27t+want+to+go%22&pg=PA312&printsec=frontcover
Portland Transcript
Jan 5 1856
"Pa" asked the innocent, do dolls go to heaven when the get all smashed
to
pieces" "No, dear, dolls don't have souls." replied her father. "Well,
then, I
don't want to die." "Why not?" "Why" answered she "I s'pose I should
have to
go to heaven if I died, and I don't want to go anywhere that they don't
have dolls."
------ Original Message ------
From "ADSGarson O'Toole" <adsgarsonotoole at GMAIL.COM>
To ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
Date 13/01/2025 17:59:21
Subject Re: Quote: If there are no cigars in heaven, I shall not go
(attributed to Mark Twain)
>Thank you for taking the time to search and share your discovery,
>Peter. Google Books does have fully readable scans for the intriguing
>citation you discovered.
>
>Mark Twain died in 1910. During subsequent years psychical researchers
>attempted to contact Twain in the spirit realm. Apparently, in 1917
>Mrs. Chenoweth used the automatic writing technique to communicate
>with Twain.
>
>For non-believers, Mrs. Chenoweth simply used her own imagination to
>generate a fantasy version of Twain. A report was published in 1920.
>
>Year: 1920
>Journal: Proceedings of the American Society for Psychical Research
>Volume 14
>Article: Cross Reference Experiments for Mark Twain
>Author: James H. Hyslop Ph.D.
>Note: Spirit Communication with Mark Twain by Mrs. Chenoweth via
>Automatic Writing
>Date: July 3, 1917
>Start Page 1, Quote Page 187
>Publisher: The American Society for Psychical Research, New York
>Database: Google Books Full View
>
>https://books.google.com/books?id=EIDNAAAAMAAJ&q=%22smoking+in%22#v=snippet&
>
>[Begin excerpt]
>But if there is no smoking in the far realm I guess I’m done for, for
>I still think tenderly [N.R.] tenderly and longingly about my black
>cigar [N.R.] cigar.
>[End excerpt]
>
>Garson
>
>On Mon, Jan 13, 2025 at 11:36 AM mr_peter_morris at outlook.com
><mr_peter_morris at outlook.com> wrote:
>>
>>https://www.google.co.uk/books/edition/Proceedings_of_the_American_Society_for/gnuVqjctdwgC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22mark+twain%22+%22no+smoking%22+heaven&dq=%22mark+twain%22+%22no+smoking%22+heaven&printsec=frontcover
>>
>> Proceedings of the American Society for Psychical Research
>> Cross-reference experiments for Mark Twain
>> Possibly 1922, or earlier, usual caveats apply
>>
>>
>> But if there is no smoking in the far realm I guess I'm done for
>> for I still think tenderly [N.R.] tenderly and longingly about my
>> black cigar [N. R.] cigar.
>>
>>
>> Maybe quoting an earlier work. I can't be sure from the Google fragments
>> if it's Twain speaking, but worth investigating.
>>
>>
>>
>> ------ Original Message ------
>> From "ADSGarson O'Toole" <adsgarsonotoole at GMAIL.COM<mailto:adsgarsonotoole at GMAIL.COM>>
>> To ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU<mailto:ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
>> Date 12/01/2025 22:44:03
>> Subject Quote: If there are no cigars in heaven, I shall not go (attributed to Mark Twain)
>>
>> The remark in the subject line is often attributed to Mark Twain, but
>> I have not yet found a solid citation.
>>
>> Recently, Kevin Mac Donnell of Mac Donnell Rare Books in Austin, Texas
>> shared with me an intriguing citation for a closely related remark. In
>> April 1929 James Ross Clemens who was Twain's cousin published "Some
>> Reminiscences of Mark Twain" in the "Overland Monthly" of San
>> Francisco, California:
>>
>> [Begin excerpt]
>> . . . Mark was in much the same frame of mind as regards cigars. "If
>> there is smoking in Heaven I want to go there," he would fervidly
>> exclaim.
>> [End excerpt]
>>
>> Also, Mark Twain's Notebook (1935) contains the following remark which
>> fits the same template:
>>
>> [Begin excerpt]
>> If I cannot swear in heaven I shall not stay there.
>> [End excerpt]
>>
>> Here is a link to the Quote Investigator article:
>>https://quoteinvestigator.com/2025/01/12/smoke-heaven/
>>
>> Feedback welcome
>> Garson O'Toole
>>
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