[Ads-l] Karen out, Jessica in

David Bowie db.list at PMPKN.NET
Fri Feb 6 06:15:38 UTC 2026


Huh, interesting. For me, it still counts as a contrast being introduced 
by /though/, because one is the name, and the other is the 
entitlement—therefore, it's a contrast in the sense that it's talking 
about two /different things/ that are in some particular way related.

Now i'm curious what the distribution is of what counts as a contrast in 
this particular sort of thing.

David


On 2/5/2026 8:00 PM, Jesse Sheidlower wrote:
> I'm with Jon here; this immediately hit me as being off.
>
> _though_ should introduce some kind of contrast: "Though X has changed, Y is the same." Here, the name has changed, "but" the way she acts has...also changed.
>
> The article is arguing that Karens and Jessicas are similar; but this sentence goes in a different direction.
>
> Jesse Sheidlower
>
> On Wed, Feb 04, 2026 at 08:29:10PM -0900, David Bowie wrote:
>> Okay, I'll bite: What's weird about the use of 'though' here? It feels
>> bog-standard normal to me.
>>
>> David
>>
>>
>> On 2/4/2026 8:00 PM, ADS-L automatic digest system wrote:
>>> Date:    Wed, 4 Feb 2026 09:22:50 -0500
>>> From:    Jonathan Lighter<wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM>
>>> Subject: Karen out, Jessica in
>>>
>>> https://www.yahoo.com/creators/lifestyle/story/gen-z-says-karen-is-out--and-a-new-name-for-rude-entitled-women-is-going-viral-152958311.html
>>>    :
>>>
>>> While the stereotype of the “Karen” is fading, the behaviour it represents
>>> is still very much alive, just under a new name: “Jessica.” Though the name
>>> has changed, the way she expresses her entitlement has evolved....
>>>
>>> The “Jessica” persona is much quieter and operates mainly online. Instead
>>> of causing a ruckus in a store, she prefers to address her grievances from
>>> behind a computer screen, where she has more control.
>>>
>>> (Note weird use of "though.")
>>>
>>> J.
>>> -- "If the truth is half as bad as I think it is, you can't handle the
>>> truth."

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