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Wed Sep 2 22:19:42 UTC 2026

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/articles/68-facts-actually-just-straight-093002707.html

68 "Facts" That Are Actually Just Straight-Up Lies... Bulls don't get angry
or attack due to the presence of the color red....Bats are not blind; I was
floored to learn that bats can actually see!...Stockholm syndrome is not a
real thing, and the story's probably way different from what you remember.
[etc.]

Note "straight-up," i.e. "absolute."  These are *lies,* dude!

JL

On Wed, Jul 15, 2026 at 1:37 PM Laurence Horn <
00001c05436ff7cf-dmarc-request at listserv.uga.edu> wrote:

> Yes, a giveaway is the comment (in connection with the Emu War, not part of
> my education) "While this wasn't a deliberate lie, it was an embarrassing
> episode that became a myth in popular culture".  I'd have thought if it
> "wasn't a deliberate lie" it wasn't a lie.  Sort of like an unintentional
> murder.
>
> LH
>
> On Wed, Jul 15, 2026 at 12:38 PM Jonathan Lighter <
> 00001aad181a2549-dmarc-request at listserv.uga.edu> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/articles/18-history-lessons-teacher-lied-122454746.html
> > :
> >
> > Readers Digest    18 History Lessons Your Teacher Lied to You About
> >
> >  The news is fake too.
> >
> > JL
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 14, 2026 at 7:30 AM Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > "An error, misinterpretation, etc."
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/articles/10-famous-lies-changed-world-124949212.html
> > > :
> > >
> > > "In 1989, scientists announced they had achieved cold fusion, a
> > > breakthrough that promised unlimited, cheap energy. Unfortunately, it
> > was a
> > > lie. The experiment was a failure, and the scientific community quickly
> > > debunked the claims."
> > >
> > > When anything untrue can be called a "lie," people are never just
> > > mistaken, they're trying to hoodwink you.
> > >
> > > JL
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jun 1, 2026 at 9:13 AM Jonathan Lighter <
> wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> This guy says "You've been lied to about sword-fighting."
> > >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJzEfF4Ab7k
> > >>
> > >> 'Unintentionally misled.'
> > >>
> > >> A real sword fight only took a few seconds.
> > >>
> > >> JL
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Sat, May 10, 2025 at 11:47 AM Jonathan Lighter <
> > wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Youtube show about Latin:
> > >>>
> > >>> "The lie is that there were two languages: Classical Lantin and
> Vulgar
> > >>> Latin."
> > >>>
> > >>> Popular misconception.
> > >>>
> > >>> JL
> > >>>
> > >>> On Fri, Mar 7, 2025 at 7:59 PM Jonathan Lighter <
> > wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com>
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> A physics doc on YouTube informs us that the idea that a proton
> > >>>> consists of three quarks " is another lie they told you" in school.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> A misconception or simplification.
> > >>>> JL
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Sat, Jun 8, 2024 at 9:18 PM Jonathan Lighter <
> > wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com>
> > >>>> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> I read the book long ago. Yes, he meant the textbook authors were
> the
> > >>>>> "liars," because they simplified or glossed over various facts -
> > primarily
> > >>>>> in books for teenagers.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> I suppose "lies" is catchier than "simplifications and omissions,"
> > but
> > >>>>> it certainly implies cynical deception.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> JL
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> On Sat, Jun 8, 2024 at 8:58 PM Baker, John <
> > >>>>> 000014a9c79c3f97-dmarc-request at listserv.uga.edu> wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> The book Lies My Teacher Told Me: Everything Your American History
> > >>>>>> Textbook Got Wrong, by James W. Loewen (1995), may be responsible
> > for the
> > >>>>>> popularization of this usage.  I have not read the book, but if I
> > >>>>>> understand Loewen’s point, his argument actually was that the lies
> > were
> > >>>>>> those of the textbook authors (i.e., teachers were not necessarily
> > lying).
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> John Baker
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> From: American Dialect Society <ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU> On Behalf
> > Of
> > >>>>>> Jonathan Lighter
> > >>>>>> Sent: Saturday, June 8, 2024 8:42 PM
> > >>>>>> To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
> > >>>>>> Subject: Re: lie
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> External Email - Think Before You Click
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> "Easy Latin Lessons" on YouTube, Lesson 38:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> "Today's story contains a lie that you might have been taught in
> > >>>>>> elementary
> > >>>>>> school....And maybe the lie will help you remember the new words
> > >>>>>> better."
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> The so-called "lie" is the erroneous belief that educated people
> in
> > >>>>>> 1492
> > >>>>>> thought the earth was flat.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> JL
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> On Wed, Jun 5, 2024 at 7:28 AM Jonathan Lighter <
> > >>>>>> wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com<mailto:wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com>>
> > >>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> > "Thing You Were Lied to About Dinosaurs"
> > >>>>>> >
> > >>>>>> > Things You Were Lied to About Dinosaurs | Watch (msn.com)
> > >>>>>> > <
> > >>>>>>
> >
> https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/things-you-were-lied-to-about-dinosaurs/vi-BB1lncBZ?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=ACTS&cvid=70b8d7bef09142f58a0cd0a74953d779&ei=11
> > >>>>>> <
> > >>>>>>
> >
> https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/things-you-were-lied-to-about-dinosaurs/vi-BB1lncBZ?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=ACTS&cvid=70b8d7bef09142f58a0cd0a74953d779&ei=11
> > >>>>>> >>
> > >>>>>> >
> > >>>>>> > In this case the "lies" are "myths and misconceptions", e.g.
> > >>>>>> "dinosaurs
> > >>>>>> > were green, scary monsters." (Great CGI, though.)
> > >>>>>> >
> > >>>>>> > JL
> > >>>>>> >
> > >>>>>> >
> > >>>>>> > On Tue, May 10, 2022 at 8:31 AM Jonathan Lighter <
> > >>>>>> wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com<mailto:wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com>>
> > >>>>>> > wrote:
> > >>>>>> >
> > >>>>>> >>
> > >>>>>> >>
> > >>>>>>
> >
> https://news.yahoo.com/seismic-shift-fractures-evangelicals-arkansas-185525279.html
> > >>>>>> <
> > >>>>>>
> >
> https://news.yahoo.com/seismic-shift-fractures-evangelicals-arkansas-185525279.html
> > >>>>>> >
> > >>>>>> >> :
> > >>>>>> >>
> > >>>>>> >> “This mindset that Christianity and politics, and the preacher
> > and
> > >>>>>> >> politics, need to be separate, that’s a lie,” he said.
> > >>>>>> >>
> > >>>>>> >> JL
> > >>>>>> >>
> > >>>>>> >> On Mon, Nov 15, 2021 at 8:30 PM Jonathan Lighter <
> > >>>>>> wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com<mailto:wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com>>
> > >>>>>> >> wrote:
> > >>>>>> >>
> > >>>>>> >>>
> > >>>>>>
> > https://www.yahoo.com/news/22-things-were-taught-school-064603650.html
> > >>>>>> <
> > >>>>>>
> > https://www.yahoo.com/news/22-things-were-taught-school-064603650.html
> > >>>>>> >
> > >>>>>> >>>
> > >>>>>> >>> "ROY G BIV Is A Lie, And 21 Other Fake 'Facts' Our Teachers
> > >>>>>> Taught Us
> > >>>>>> >>> As Kids"
> > >>>>>> >>>
> > >>>>>> >>> JL
> > >>>>>> >>>
> > >>>>>> >>> On Sat, Oct 16, 2021 at 4:20 PM Jonathan Lighter <
> > >>>>>> wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com<mailto:wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com>>
> > >>>>>> >>> wrote:
> > >>>>>> >>>
> > >>>>>> >>>> Cf.:
> > >>>>>> >>>>
> > >>>>>>
> >
> https://www.yahoo.com/news/horses-cnn-contributor-slams-networks-161600893.html
> > >>>>>> <
> > >>>>>>
> >
> https://www.yahoo.com/news/horses-cnn-contributor-slams-networks-161600893.html
> > >>>>>> >
> > >>>>>> >>>> <
> > >>>>>>
> >
> https://www.yahoo.com/news/horses-cnn-contributor-slams-networks-161600893.html
> > >>>>>> <
> > >>>>>>
> >
> https://www.yahoo.com/news/horses-cnn-contributor-slams-networks-161600893.html
> > >>>>>> >>
> > >>>>>> >>>>
> > >>>>>> >>>> "would you say that when you’re talking about a drug that has
> > >>>>>> been
> > >>>>>> >>>> given out to billions and billions of people?” Rogan asked
> > >>>>>> Gupta. “A drug
> > >>>>>> >>>> that the inventors won a Nobel Prize in 2015, a drug that has
> > >>>>>> been shown to
> > >>>>>> >>>> stop viral replication in vitro. You know that, right? Why
> > would
> > >>>>>> they lie
> > >>>>>> >>>> and say that’s horse dewormer? [...] Do you think that
> that's a
> > >>>>>> problem
> > >>>>>> >>>> that your news network lies?"
> > >>>>>> >>>>
> > >>>>>> >>>> Ivermectin, the drug at issue, *is* a horse dewormer. The
> > >>>>>> terminology
> > >>>>>> >>>> was complicated by the fact that it's also prescribed for
> > >>>>>> parasitic river
> > >>>>>> >>>> blindness in humans. Rogan got a prescription for it (he
> > doesn't
> > >>>>>> have river
> > >>>>>> >>>> blindness).
> > >>>>>> >>>>
> > >>>>>> >>>> Said in passing by Don Lemon, the characterization "horse
> > >>>>>> dewormer"
> > >>>>>> >>>> would more accurately be called a "misnomer" or even a
> > >>>>>> "tendentious choice
> > >>>>>> >>>> of words."
> > >>>>>> >>>>
> > >>>>>> >>>> But nowadays it's a "lie."
> > >>>>>> >>>>
> > >>>>>> >>>> JL
> > >>>>>> >>>>
> > >>>>>> >>>>
> > >>>>>> >>>> On Thu, Sep 23, 2021 at 3:39 PM Mark Mandel <
> > >>>>>> markamandel at gmail.com<mailto:markamandel at gmail.com>>
> > >>>>>> >>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>> >>>>
> > >>>>>> >>>>> They lie flat, as opposed to flat-out lying
> > >>>>>> >>>>>
> > >>>>>> >>>>> MAM. .
> > >>>>>> >>>>>
> > >>>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Sep 23, 2021, 1:03 PM Jonathan Lighter <
> > >>>>>> wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com
> > >>>>>> <mailto:wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com%0b>>>>>> >
> > >>>>>> >>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>> >>>>>
> > >>>>>> >>>>> > So you can't trust the inconstant moon either.
> > >>>>>> >>>>> >
> > >>>>>> >>>>> > I trust the flat-earthers. They have no reason to lie.
> > >>>>>> >>>>> >
> > >>>>>> >>>>> > JL
> > >>>>>> >>>>> >
> > >>>>>> >>>>> > On Thu, Sep 23, 2021 at 12:25 PM Mark Mandel <
> > >>>>>> markamandel at gmail.com<mailto:markamandel at gmail.com>>
> > >>>>>> >>>>> > wrote:
> > >>>>>> >>>>> >
> > >>>>>> >>>>> > > Well, the Moon always lies *in the northern hemisphere*.
> > In
> > >>>>>> the
> > >>>>>> >>>>> Tropics
> > >>>>>> >>>>> > her
> > >>>>>> >>>>> > > path takes her through or near the zenith on her monthly
> > >>>>>> apparent
> > >>>>>> >>>>> journey
> > >>>>>> >>>>> > > from east to west and the edge of the shadow is roughly
> > >>>>>> parallel
> > >>>>>> >>>>> to that
> > >>>>>> >>>>> > > line, so it depends on which way you're facing. And in
> the
> > >>>>>> southern
> > >>>>>> >>>>> > > hemisphere she tells the truth.
> > >>>>>> >>>>> > >
> > >>>>>> >>>>> > > Mark A. Mandel
> > >>>>>> >>>>> > >
> > >>>>>> >>>>> > >
> > >>>>>> >>>>> > > On Wed, Sep 22, 2021, 4:38 PM Laurence Horn <
> > >>>>>> >>>>> laurence.horn at yale.edu<mailto:laurence.horn at yale.edu>>
> > >>>>>> >>>>> > > wrote:
> > >>>>>> >>>>> > >
> > >>>>>> >>>>> > > > > On Sep 22, 2021, at 4:03 PM, Jonathan Lighter <
> > >>>>>> >>>>> > wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM<mailto:wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM>>
> > >>>>>> >>>>> > > > wrote:
> > >>>>>> >>>>> > > > >
> > >>>>>> >>>>> > > > >
> > >>>>>> >>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > https://www.yahoo.com/news/thought-knew-sun-color-lie-133422094.html<
> > >>>>>>
> > https://www.yahoo.com/news/thought-knew-sun-color-lie-133422094.html>
> > >>>>>> >>>>> > :
> > >>>>>> >>>>> > > > >
> > >>>>>> >>>>> > > > > What You Thought You Knew About the Sun’s Color Is a
> > Lie
> > >>>>>> >>>>> > > > >
> > >>>>>> >>>>> > > > > (People say it's yellow, but it's really white.
> > Liars!)
> > >>>>>> >>>>> > > > >
> > >>>>>> >>>>> > > > > JL
> > >>>>>> >>>>> > > >
> > >>>>>> >>>>> > > > I don’t know—from the write-up it looks like it’s the
> > sun
> > >>>>>> that's
> > >>>>>> >>>>> the
> > >>>>>> >>>>> > > > liar. I was told the moon always lies (it makes a
> > capital
> > >>>>>> D
> > >>>>>> >>>>> when it’s
> > >>>>>> >>>>> > > > crescent and a C when it’s decrescent), but apparently
> > >>>>>> you can’t
> > >>>>>> >>>>> trust
> > >>>>>> >>>>> > > any
> > >>>>>> >>>>> > > > heavenly bodies. Or even Springsteen:
> > >>>>>> >>>>> > > >
> > >>>>>> >>>>> > > > The piss-yellow sun
> > >>>>>> >>>>> > > > Comes bringing up the day
> > >>>>>> >>>>> > > > She said "Ain't nobody can give nobody
> > >>>>>> >>>>> > > > What they really need anyway”
> > >>>>>> >>>>> > > > (“Dry Lightning”)
> > >>>>>> >>>>> > > >
> > >>>>>> >>>>> > > > Is nothing sacred?
> > >>>>>> >>>>> > > >
> > >>>>>> >>>>> > > > LH
> > >>>>>> >>>>> > > >
> > >>>>>> >>>>> > > >
> > >>>>>> >>>>> > > > >
> > >>>>>> >>>>> > > > > On Fri, Aug 13, 2021 at 10:19 AM Dan Goncharoff <
> > >>>>>> >>>>> thegonch at gmail.com<mailto:thegonch at gmail.com>>
> > >>>>>> >>>>> > > > wrote:
> > >>>>>> >>>>> > > > >
> > >>>>>> >>>>> > > > >> Interesting how one deals with opinions expressed
> as
> > >>>>>> facts,
> > >>>>>> >>>>> > especially
> > >>>>>> >>>>> > > > when
> > >>>>>> >>>>> > > > >> they are found to be wrong later. Are they
> > Schrodinger
> > >>>>>> >>>>> statements,
> > >>>>>> >>>>> > > only
> > >>>>>> >>>>> > > > >> found to be true or false once we "open the box"?
> > >>>>>> >>>>> > > > >>
> > >>>>>> >>>>> > > > >> On Fri, Aug 13, 2021, 10:05 AM Jonathan Lighter <
> > >>>>>> >>>>> > > wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com<mailto:wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com>
> > >>>>>> >>>>> > > > >
> > >>>>>> >>>>> > > > >> wrote:
> > >>>>>> >>>>> > > > >>
> > >>>>>> >>>>> > > > >>> 'any idea or statement that is untrue or that one
> > >>>>>> disagrees
> > >>>>>> >>>>> with.'
> > >>>>>> >>>>> > > > >>>
> > >>>>>> >>>>> > > > >>> I've been hearing this a lot on cable news, though
> > >>>>>> not from
> > >>>>>> >>>>> > > > journalists.
> > >>>>>> >>>>> > > > >>> Ex.:
> > >>>>>> >>>>> > > > >>>
> > >>>>>> >>>>> > > > >>> Quora.com: "Electrons absolutely positively do not
> > >>>>>> whizz
> > >>>>>> >>>>> around
> > >>>>>> >>>>> > the
> > >>>>>> >>>>> > > > >>> nucleus of an atom. That idea is a
> lie-to-children,
> > a
> > >>>>>> >>>>> > simplification
> > >>>>>> >>>>> > > > told
> > >>>>>> >>>>> > > > >>> [to] young kids in grade school."
> > >>>>>> >>>>> > > > >>>
> > >>>>>> >>>>> > > > >>> CNN: "Rugged individualism is a lie."
> > >>>>>> >>>>> > > > >>>
> > >>>>>> >>>>> > > > >>> Also v.:
> > >>>>>> >>>>> > > > >>>
> > >>>>>> >>>>> > > > >>> Protest sign seen on FOX News: "FAUCI LIED PEOPLE
> > >>>>>> DIED"
> > >>>>>> >>>>> > > > >>>
> > >>>>>> >>>>> > > > >>> JL
> > >>>>>> >>>>> > > > >>>
> > >>>>>> >>>>> > > > >>> --
> > >>>>>> >>>>> > > > >>> "If the truth is half as bad as I think it is, you
> > >>>>>> can't
> > >>>>>> >>>>> handle the
> > >>>>>> >>>>> > > > >> truth."
> > >>>>>> >>>>> > > > >>>
> > >>>>>> >>>>> > > > >>>
> > >>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------
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> > >>>>>> >>>>> > > > >>
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> > >>>>>> >>>>> > > > >>
> > >>>>>> >>>>> > > > >
> > >>>>>> >>>>> > > > >
> > >>>>>> >>>>> > > > > --
> > >>>>>> >>>>> > > > > "If the truth is half as bad as I think it is, you
> > can't
> > >>>>>> >>>>> handle the
> > >>>>>> >>>>> > > > truth."
> > >>>>>> >>>>> > > > >
> > >>>>>> >>>>> > > > >
> > >>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------
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> > >>>>>> >>>>> > >
> > >>>>>> >>>>> >
> > >>>>>> >>>>> >
> > >>>>>> >>>>> > --
> > >>>>>> >>>>> > "If the truth is half as bad as I think it is, you can't
> > >>>>>> handle the
> > >>>>>> >>>>> truth."
> > >>>>>> >>>>> >
> > >>>>>> >>>>> >
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> > >>>>>> <http://www.americandialect.org>
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> > >>>>>> http://www.americandialect.org>
> > >>>>>> >>>>>
> > >>>>>> >>>>
> > >>>>>> >>>>
> > >>>>>> >>>> --
> > >>>>>> >>>> "If the truth is half as bad as I think it is, you can't
> handle
> > >>>>>> the
> > >>>>>> >>>> truth."
> > >>>>>> >>>>
> > >>>>>> >>>
> > >>>>>> >>>
> > >>>>>> >>> --
> > >>>>>> >>> "If the truth is half as bad as I think it is, you can't
> handle
> > >>>>>> the
> > >>>>>> >>> truth."
> > >>>>>> >>>
> > >>>>>> >>
> > >>>>>> >>
> > >>>>>> >> --
> > >>>>>> >> "If the truth is half as bad as I think it is, you can't handle
> > the
> > >>>>>> >> truth."
> > >>>>>> >>
> > >>>>>> >
> > >>>>>> >
> > >>>>>> > --
> > >>>>>> > "If the truth is half as bad as I think it is, you can't handle
> > the
> > >>>>>> truth."
> > >>>>>> >
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> --
> > >>>>>> "If the truth is half as bad as I think it is, you can't handle
> the
> > >>>>>> truth."
> > >>>>>>
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> > >>>>>> http://www.americandialect.org>
> > >>>>>>
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> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> --
> > >>>>> "If the truth is half as bad as I think it is, you can't handle the
> > >>>>> truth."
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> --
> > >>>> "If the truth is half as bad as I think it is, you can't handle the
> > >>>> truth."
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> --
> > >>> "If the truth is half as bad as I think it is, you can't handle the
> > >>> truth."
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> "If the truth is half as bad as I think it is, you can't handle the
> > >> truth."
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > "If the truth is half as bad as I think it is, you can't handle the
> > truth."
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > "If the truth is half as bad as I think it is, you can't handle the
> truth."
> >
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