ALGONQUIANA Digest - 30 Oct 2012 to 31 Oct 2012 (#2012-13)
Rosen, Nicole
nicole.rosen at ULETH.CA
Thu Nov 1 04:17:09 UTC 2012
I *am* a linguist, and I might not want to be on this (or any) list, not
out of lack of interest, but out of overabundance of email, so I
appreciate the efforts/thought to not overload the listserv.
A way of alleviating the cluttered inbox, in case anyone isn't aware, is
to get Algonquiana in digest form, and go through (or delete! :) ) one
long message at day's end with all the group's messages compiled.
Nicole
____________________________________________
Dr. Nicole Rosen
Associate Professor, Department of Modern Languages
University of Lethbridge
4401 University Drive
Lethbridge, AB T1K 3M4
nicole.rosen at uleth.ca
403.329.5122 (Office)
403.393-2317 (Mobile)
On 12-10-31 10:00 PM, "ALGONQUIANA automatic digest system"
<LISTSERV at LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG> wrote:
>There are 20 messages totaling 4595 lines in this issue.
>
>Topics of the day:
>
> 1. Continuing the morphology and syntax discussion (19)
> 2. Position at UdeM
>
>
>
>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 15:44:39 +0000
>From: "Genee, Inge" <inge.genee at ULETH.CA>
>Subject: Re: Continuing the morphology and syntax discussion
>
>I think that would be a great idea. Thanks for suggesting it Rich. In
>order not to flood the listserv with a discussion that may not be
>relevant for all members we might want to wait and see who expresses an
>interest and then either set up a separate list or just make a cc-list
>for the purposes of this discussion.
>Inge
>Inge Genee
>Department of Modern Languages
>University of Lethbridge
>4401 University Drive
>Lethbridge AB T1K 3M4
>Canada
>Ph. +1-403-380-1809
>Email inge.genee at uleth.ca
>www.caans-acaen.ca/Journal/<http://www.caans-acaen.ca/Journal/>
>
>________________________________
>From: ALGONQUIANA [ALGONQUIANA at LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG] on behalf of
>Richard RHODES [rrhodes at BERKELEY.EDU]
>Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2012 2:07 PM
>To: ALGONQUIANA at LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG
>Subject: Continuing the morphology and syntax discussion
>
>
>Folks,
>
>I'm just putting out a feeler to see if there is interest in continuing
>the syntax morphology discussion online.
>
>It seemed like Julie Brittain's paper on Sunday morning put us right in
>the middle of it again, but half of the folks were already gone by then.
>
>Let me know if it's worth talking in this venue.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Rich Rhodes
>
>Richard A. Rhodes
>Department of Linguistics
>1203 Dwinelle Hall #2650
>University of California
>Berkeley, 94720
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 10:09:48 -0500
>From: George Fulford <single_sculler at ME.COM>
>Subject: Re: Continuing the morphology and syntax discussion
>
>I would be very interested in participating in this discussion as I think
>that the structure of Algonquian languages challenges the conventional
>wisdom of how we understand these two aspects of grammar.
>
>George Fulford
>Department of Anthropology
>University of Winnipeg
>
>On 2012-10-30, at 3:07 PM, Richard RHODES <rrhodes at berkeley.edu> wrote:
>
>> Folks,
>>
>> I'm just putting out a feeler to see if there is interest in continuing
>>the syntax morphology discussion online.
>>
>> It seemed like Julie Brittain's paper on Sunday morning put us right in
>>the middle of it again, but half of the folks were already gone by then.
>>
>> Let me know if it's worth talking in this venue.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Rich Rhodes
>>
>> Richard A. Rhodes
>> Department of Linguistics
>> 1203 Dwinelle Hall #2650
>> University of California
>> Berkeley, 94720
>>
>>
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 12:57:07 -0400
>From: Ann Spinney <anuwit at COMCAST.NET>
>Subject: Re: Continuing the morphology and syntax discussion
>
>I would also be interested in following the discussion although my
>interests are cognate (I am not a linguist) and I could not attend the
>conference this year. ~Ann
>
>Dr. Ann Morrison Spinney, PhD
>Ethnomusicologist
>http://www.annmorrisonspinney.com
>
>
>
>
>On Oct 31, 2012, at 11:09 AM, George Fulford <single_sculler at ME.COM>
>wrote:
>
>I would be very interested in participating in this discussion as I think
>that the structure of Algonquian languages challenges the conventional
>wisdom of how we understand these two aspects of grammar.
>
>George Fulford
>Department of Anthropology
>University of Winnipeg
>
>On 2012-10-30, at 3:07 PM, Richard RHODES <rrhodes at berkeley.edu> wrote:
>
>> Folks,
>>
>> I'm just putting out a feeler to see if there is interest in continuing
>>the syntax morphology discussion online.
>>
>> It seemed like Julie Brittain's paper on Sunday morning put us right in
>>the middle of it again, but half of the folks were already gone by then.
>>
>> Let me know if it's worth talking in this venue.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Rich Rhodes
>>
>> Richard A. Rhodes
>> Department of Linguistics
>> 1203 Dwinelle Hall #2650
>> University of California
>> Berkeley, 94720
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 14:19:07 -0400
>From: Solveiga Armoskaite <solveiga.armoskaite at GMAIL.COM>
>Subject: Re: Continuing the morphology and syntax discussion
>
>I would be interested to be on the list for such a discussion
>
>best,
>
>Solveiga
>
>On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 11:44 AM, Genee, Inge <inge.genee at uleth.ca> wrote:
>
>> I think that would be a great idea. Thanks for suggesting it Rich. In
>> order not to flood the listserv with a discussion that may not be
>>relevant
>> for all members we might want to wait and see who expresses an interest
>>and
>> then either set up a separate list or just make a cc-list for the
>>purposes
>> of this discussion.
>> Inge
>> Inge Genee
>> Department of Modern Languages
>> University of Lethbridge
>> 4401 University Drive
>> Lethbridge AB T1K 3M4
>> Canada
>> Ph. +1-403-380-1809
>> Email inge.genee at uleth.ca
>> www.caans-acaen.ca/Journal/
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* ALGONQUIANA [ALGONQUIANA at LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG] on behalf of
>> Richard RHODES [rrhodes at BERKELEY.EDU]
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 30, 2012 2:07 PM
>> *To:* ALGONQUIANA at LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG
>> *Subject:* Continuing the morphology and syntax discussion
>>
>> Folks,
>>
>> I'm just putting out a feeler to see if there is interest in continuing
>> the syntax morphology discussion online.
>>
>> It seemed like Julie Brittain's paper on Sunday morning put us right in
>> the middle of it again, but half of the folks were already gone by then.
>>
>> Let me know if it's worth talking in this venue.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Rich Rhodes
>>
>> Richard A. Rhodes
>> Department of Linguistics
>> 1203 Dwinelle Hall #2650
>> University of California
>> Berkeley, 94720
>>
>>
>
>
>--
>Sincerely,
>
>Solveiga Armoskaite
>
>
>*University of Ottawa*
>*Department of Linguistics *
>Arts Hall
>70 Laurier Avenue East
>Room 401
>Ottawa ON Canada
>K1N 6N5
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 11:12:08 -0700
>From: Robert Brightman <rbrightm at REED.EDU>
>Subject: Re: Continuing the morphology and syntax discussion
>
>Having missed the realtime prototype last Sunday, I'd like to follow a
>follow-up.
>
>Rob Brightman
>
>On 10/31/12 9:57 AM, Ann Spinney wrote:
>> I would also be interested in following the discussion although my
>> interests are cognate (I am not a linguist) and I could not attend the
>> conference this year. ~Ann
>>
>> Dr. Ann Morrison Spinney, PhD
>> Ethnomusicologist
>> http://www.annmorrisonspinney.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Oct 31, 2012, at 11:09 AM, George Fulford <single_sculler at ME.COM
>> <mailto:single_sculler at ME.COM>> wrote:
>>
>> I would be very interested in participating in this discussion as I
>> think that the structure of Algonquian languages challenges the
>> conventional wisdom of how we understand these two aspects of grammar.
>>
>> George Fulford
>> Department of Anthropology
>> University of Winnipeg
>>
>> On 2012-10-30, at 3:07 PM, Richard RHODES <rrhodes at berkeley.edu
>> <mailto:rrhodes at berkeley.edu>> wrote:
>>
>>> Folks,
>>>
>>> I'm just putting out a feeler to see if there is interest in
>>> continuing the syntax morphology discussion online.
>>>
>>> It seemed like Julie Brittain's paper on Sunday morning put us right
>>> in the middle of it again, but half of the folks were already gone by
>>> then.
>>>
>>> Let me know if it's worth talking in this venue.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Rich Rhodes
>>>
>>> Richard A. Rhodes
>>> Department of Linguistics
>>> 1203 Dwinelle Hall #2650
>>> University of California
>>> Berkeley, 94720
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 12:46:28 -0400
>From: Marie-Pierre Bousquet <marie-pierre.bousquet at UMONTREAL.CA>
>Subject: Position at UdeM
>
>Hi,
>
>There is a position opening for a prof in ethnolinguistic at Universite de
>Montreal that could be of interest for you or for people you know. Please
>circulate.
>MP Bousquet.
>--
>Dr Marie-Pierre Bousquet
>Professeure agrégée/Associate professor
>Département d'anthropologie
>Université de Montréal
>C.P. 6128, succ. Centre-ville
>Montréal (Qc) H3C 3J7
>CANADA
>Tel: 514-343-2152
>marie-pierre.bousquet at umontreal.ca
>www.graaq.ca
>
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 12:17:51 -0500
>From: Monica Macaulay <mmacaula at WISC.EDU>
>Subject: Re: Continuing the morphology and syntax discussion
>
>Lynn Drapeau and I talked last year about setting up a list just for the
>Algonquianist linguists (so you non-linguists wouldn't have to delete all
>our messages!) - I'll try to get that set up today or tomorrow.
>
>Stay tuned,
>Monica
>
>On Oct 31, 2012, at 10:09 AM, George Fulford wrote:
>
>> I would be very interested in participating in this discussion as I
>>think that the structure of Algonquian languages challenges the
>>conventional wisdom of how we understand these two aspects of grammar.
>>
>> George Fulford
>> Department of Anthropology
>> University of Winnipeg
>>
>> On 2012-10-30, at 3:07 PM, Richard RHODES <rrhodes at berkeley.edu> wrote:
>>
>>> Folks,
>>>
>>> I'm just putting out a feeler to see if there is interest in
>>>continuing the syntax morphology discussion online.
>>>
>>> It seemed like Julie Brittain's paper on Sunday morning put us right
>>>in the middle of it again, but half of the folks were already gone by
>>>then.
>>>
>>> Let me know if it's worth talking in this venue.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Rich Rhodes
>>>
>>> Richard A. Rhodes
>>> Department of Linguistics
>>> 1203 Dwinelle Hall #2650
>>> University of California
>>> Berkeley, 94720
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 14:04:03 -0500
>From: Stephanie Morse <stephaniemorse at UMAIL.UCSB.EDU>
>Subject: Re: Continuing the morphology and syntax discussion
>
>Likewise!
>
>~Stephanie
>
>On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 1:12 PM, Robert Brightman <rbrightm at reed.edu>
>wrote:
>
>> Having missed the realtime prototype last Sunday, I'd like to follow a
>> follow-up.
>>
>> Rob Brightman
>>
>>
>> On 10/31/12 9:57 AM, Ann Spinney wrote:
>>
>>> I would also be interested in following the discussion although my
>>> interests are cognate (I am not a linguist) and I could not attend the
>>> conference this year. ~Ann
>>>
>>> Dr. Ann Morrison Spinney, PhD
>>> Ethnomusicologist
>>> http://www.annmorrisonspinney.**com <http://www.annmorrisonspinney.com>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Oct 31, 2012, at 11:09 AM, George Fulford <single_sculler at ME.COM
>>> <mailto:single_sculler at ME.COM>**> wrote:
>>>
>>> I would be very interested in participating in this discussion as I
>>> think that the structure of Algonquian languages challenges the
>>> conventional wisdom of how we understand these two aspects of grammar.
>>>
>>> George Fulford
>>> Department of Anthropology
>>> University of Winnipeg
>>>
>>> On 2012-10-30, at 3:07 PM, Richard RHODES <rrhodes at berkeley.edu
>>> <mailto:rrhodes at berkeley.edu>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Folks,
>>>>
>>>> I'm just putting out a feeler to see if there is interest in
>>>> continuing the syntax morphology discussion online.
>>>>
>>>> It seemed like Julie Brittain's paper on Sunday morning put us right
>>>> in the middle of it again, but half of the folks were already gone by
>>>> then.
>>>>
>>>> Let me know if it's worth talking in this venue.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> Rich Rhodes
>>>>
>>>> Richard A. Rhodes
>>>> Department of Linguistics
>>>> 1203 Dwinelle Hall #2650
>>>> University of California
>>>> Berkeley, 94720
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 14:33:30 -0500
>From: Alicia Colson <alicia.colson at GMAIL.COM>
>Subject: Re: Continuing the morphology and syntax discussion
>
>Wouldn't it better for the non-linguists to be included in such a
>discussion, rather than be copied in, since otherwise there is a risk of
>yet another silo which are never a good idea. It's much easier to
>prevent a silo than to get rid of them after they've been created. It's
>not that difficult to just press the delete button..and I'd prefer to
>have this option than to remain oblivious.
>
>Best,
>
>Alicia
>
>On 31/10/2012 1:19 PM, Solveiga Armoskaite wrote:
>> I would be interested to be on the list for such a discussion
>>
>> best,
>>
>> Solveiga
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 11:44 AM, Genee, Inge <inge.genee at uleth.ca
>> <mailto:inge.genee at uleth.ca>> wrote:
>>
>> I think that would be a great idea. Thanks for suggesting it Rich.
>> In order not to flood the listserv with a discussion that may not
>> be relevant for all members we might want to wait and see who
>> expresses an interest and then either set up a separate list or
>> just make a cc-list for the purposes of this discussion.
>> Inge
>> Inge Genee
>> Department of Modern Languages
>> University of Lethbridge
>> 4401 University Drive
>> Lethbridge AB T1K 3M4
>> Canada
>> Ph. +1-403-380-1809 <tel:%2B1-403-380-1809>
>> Email inge.genee at uleth.ca <mailto:inge.genee at uleth.ca>
>> www.caans-acaen.ca/Journal/ <http://www.caans-acaen.ca/Journal/>
>>
>>
>>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> *From:* ALGONQUIANA [ALGONQUIANA at LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG
>> <mailto:ALGONQUIANA at LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG>] on behalf of
>> Richard RHODES [rrhodes at BERKELEY.EDU <mailto:rrhodes at BERKELEY.EDU>]
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 30, 2012 2:07 PM
>> *To:* ALGONQUIANA at LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG
>> <mailto:ALGONQUIANA at LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG>
>> *Subject:* Continuing the morphology and syntax discussion
>>
>> Folks,
>>
>> I'm just putting out a feeler to see if there is interest in
>> continuing the syntax morphology discussion online.
>>
>> It seemed like Julie Brittain's paper on Sunday morning put us
>> right in the middle of it again, but half of the folks were
>> already gone by then.
>>
>> Let me know if it's worth talking in this venue.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Rich Rhodes
>>
>> Richard A. Rhodes
>> Department of Linguistics
>> 1203 Dwinelle Hall #2650
>> University of California
>> Berkeley, 94720
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> Solveiga Armoskaite
>>
>>
>> *University of Ottawa*
>> *Department of Linguistics *
>> Arts Hall
>> 70 Laurier Avenue East
>> Room 401
>> Ottawa ON Canada
>> K1N 6N5
>>
>>
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 13:32:56 -0500
>From: Michael Sullivan Sr <sulli720 at UMN.EDU>
>Subject: Re: Continuing the morphology and syntax discussion
>
>I'm interested as well. Please include me in the discussion. Miigwech!
>
>On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 10:44 AM, Genee, Inge <inge.genee at uleth.ca> wrote:
>
>> I think that would be a great idea. Thanks for suggesting it Rich. In
>> order not to flood the listserv with a discussion that may not be
>>relevant
>> for all members we might want to wait and see who expresses an interest
>>and
>> then either set up a separate list or just make a cc-list for the
>>purposes
>> of this discussion.
>> Inge
>> Inge Genee
>> Department of Modern Languages
>> University of Lethbridge
>> 4401 University Drive
>> Lethbridge AB T1K 3M4
>> Canada
>> Ph. +1-403-380-1809
>> Email inge.genee at uleth.ca
>> www.caans-acaen.ca/Journal/
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* ALGONQUIANA [ALGONQUIANA at LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG] on behalf of
>> Richard RHODES [rrhodes at BERKELEY.EDU]
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 30, 2012 2:07 PM
>> *To:* ALGONQUIANA at LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG
>> *Subject:* Continuing the morphology and syntax discussion
>>
>> Folks,
>>
>> I'm just putting out a feeler to see if there is interest in continuing
>> the syntax morphology discussion online.
>>
>> It seemed like Julie Brittain's paper on Sunday morning put us right in
>> the middle of it again, but half of the folks were already gone by then.
>>
>> Let me know if it's worth talking in this venue.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Rich Rhodes
>>
>> Richard A. Rhodes
>> Department of Linguistics
>> 1203 Dwinelle Hall #2650
>> University of California
>> Berkeley, 94720
>>
>>
>
>
>--
>Michael Sullivan
>Lac Courte Oreilles Ojibwe
>PhD Student- Linguistics
>University of Minnesota
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 20:07:37 +0000
>From: Michael Hamilton <michael.hamilton at MAIL.MCGILL.CA>
>Subject: Re: Continuing the morphology and syntax discussion
>
>Hello all,
>
>I would love to be included in the discussion!
>
>Thank you very much,
>
>Michael David Hamilton
>PhD Candidate
>McGill University
>
>________________________________
>From: ALGONQUIANA [ALGONQUIANA at LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG] on behalf of
>Monica Macaulay [mmacaula at WISC.EDU]
>Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 01:17 PM
>To: ALGONQUIANA at LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG
>Subject: Re: Continuing the morphology and syntax discussion
>
>Lynn Drapeau and I talked last year about setting up a list just for the
>Algonquianist linguists (so you non-linguists wouldn't have to delete all
>our messages!) - I'll try to get that set up today or tomorrow.
>
>Stay tuned,
>Monica
>
>On Oct 31, 2012, at 10:09 AM, George Fulford wrote:
>
>I would be very interested in participating in this discussion as I think
>that the structure of Algonquian languages challenges the conventional
>wisdom of how we understand these two aspects of grammar.
>
>George Fulford
>Department of Anthropology
>University of Winnipeg
>
>On 2012-10-30, at 3:07 PM, Richard RHODES
><rrhodes at berkeley.edu<mailto:rrhodes at berkeley.edu>> wrote:
>
>
>Folks,
>
>I'm just putting out a feeler to see if there is interest in continuing
>the syntax morphology discussion online.
>
>It seemed like Julie Brittain's paper on Sunday morning put us right in
>the middle of it again, but half of the folks were already gone by then.
>
>Let me know if it's worth talking in this venue.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Rich Rhodes
>
>Richard A. Rhodes
>Department of Linguistics
>1203 Dwinelle Hall #2650
>University of California
>Berkeley, 94720
>
>
>
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 11:25:28 -0400
>From: Charles Bishop <CBISHOP1 at NYCAP.RR.COM>
>Subject: Re: Continuing the morphology and syntax discussion
>
>Hi Richard,
>
>Sorry that I couldn't be at this year's AC. What was Julie's point?
>
>Charles
>
>
>On Oct 30, 2012, at 4:07 PM, Richard RHODES wrote:
>
>> Folks,
>>
>> I'm just putting out a feeler to see if there is interest in continuing
>>the syntax morphology discussion online.
>>
>> It seemed like Julie Brittain's paper on Sunday morning put us right in
>>the middle of it again, but half of the folks were already gone by then.
>>
>> Let me know if it's worth talking in this venue.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Rich Rhodes
>>
>> Richard A. Rhodes
>> Department of Linguistics
>> 1203 Dwinelle Hall #2650
>> University of California
>> Berkeley, 94720
>>
>>
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 16:37:32 -0500
>From: Alicia Colson <alicia.colson at GMAIL.COM>
>Subject: Re: Continuing the morphology and syntax discussion
>
>Yes, it's Dr Colson. I think that it's important to be included in such
>discussions. But perhaps the desire to create a new list stems from fact
>that people are feeling swamped with email. My view is that it's
>important to undertake holistic research and I know from having had
>linguistic training in five European languages (and Latin) that
>'listening in' gives me information which, as M. Corbiere argues, is
>very useful. The idea that one ought to divvy up knowledge into silos
>based on whether 'one needs to know' something is worrisome.
>
>Best wishes,
>
>Alicia
>
>On 31/10/2012 3:18 PM, Mary Ann Corbiere wrote:
>> Dr. (I presume) Colson makes a good point regarding silos. As a
>> teacher of Nishnaabemwin who doesn't have any formal linguistic
>> training, "listening in" on linguists' discussion often gives me
>> information that is very useful. Concepts I glean in this way often
>> help me to clarify the changes that my non-linguistics-majors, adult
>> students find so bewildering and worrisome. So, I'd like to be kept in
>> the loop even though I'd only be a listener.
>> M. Corbiere
>>
>> >>> Alicia Colson <alicia.colson at GMAIL.COM> 10/31/12 3:55 PM >>>
>> Wouldn't it better for the non-linguists to be included in such a
>> discussion, rather than be copied in, since otherwise there is a risk
>> of yet another silo which are never a good idea. It's much easier to
>> prevent a silo than to get rid of them after they've been created.
>> It's not that difficult to just press the delete button..and I'd
>> prefer to have this option than to remain oblivious.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Alicia
>>
>> On 31/10/2012 1:19 PM, Solveiga Armoskaite wrote:
>>> I would be interested to be on the list for such a discussion
>>>
>>> best,
>>>
>>> Solveiga
>>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 11:44 AM, Genee, Inge <inge.genee at uleth.ca
>>> <mailto:inge.genee at uleth.ca>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I think that would be a great idea. Thanks for suggesting it
>>> Rich. In order not to flood the listserv with a discussion that
>>> may not be relevant for all members we might want to wait and see
>>> who expresses an interest and then either set up a separate list
>>> or just make a cc-list for the purposes of this discussion.
>>> Inge
>>> Inge Genee
>>> Department of Modern Languages
>>> University of Lethbridge
>>> 4401 University Drive
>>> Lethbridge AB T1K 3M4
>>> Canada
>>> Ph. +1-403-380-1809 <tel:%2B1-403-380-1809>
>>> Email inge.genee at uleth.ca <mailto:inge.genee at uleth.ca>
>>> www.caans-acaen.ca/Journal/ <http://www.caans-acaen.ca/Journal/>
>>>
>>>
>>>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> *From:* ALGONQUIANA [ALGONQUIANA at LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG
>>> <mailto:ALGONQUIANA at LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG>] on behalf of
>>> Richard RHODES [rrhodes at BERKELEY.EDU <mailto:rrhodes at BERKELEY.EDU>]
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 30, 2012 2:07 PM
>>> *To:* ALGONQUIANA at LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG
>>> <mailto:ALGONQUIANA at LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG>
>>> *Subject:* Continuing the morphology and syntax discussion
>>>
>>> Folks,
>>>
>>> I'm just putting out a feeler to see if there is interest in
>>> continuing the syntax morphology discussion online.
>>>
>>> It seemed like Julie Brittain's paper on Sunday morning put us
>>> right in the middle of it again, but half of the folks were
>>> already gone by then.
>>>
>>> Let me know if it's worth talking in this venue.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Rich Rhodes
>>>
>>> Richard A. Rhodes
>>> Department of Linguistics
>>> 1203 Dwinelle Hall #2650
>>> University of California
>>> Berkeley, 94720
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Sincerely,
>>>
>>> Solveiga Armoskaite
>>>
>>>
>>> *University of Ottawa*
>>> *Department of Linguistics *
>>> Arts Hall
>>> 70 Laurier Avenue East
>>> Room 401
>>> Ottawa ON Canada
>>> K1N 6N5
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 14:37:45 -0400
>From: Tanya Slavin <tanya.slavin at GMAIL.COM>
>Subject: Re: Continuing the morphology and syntax discussion
>
>I would be interested too, I think its a great idea. Maybe we could
>take it out of the e-mail and set up a google group discussion or some
>other forum like that?
>tanya.
>
>
>
>On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Robert Brightman <rbrightm at reed.edu>
>wrote:
>> Having missed the realtime prototype last Sunday, I'd like to follow a
>> follow-up.
>>
>> Rob Brightman
>>
>>
>> On 10/31/12 9:57 AM, Ann Spinney wrote:
>>>
>>> I would also be interested in following the discussion although my
>>> interests are cognate (I am not a linguist) and I could not attend the
>>> conference this year. ~Ann
>>>
>>> Dr. Ann Morrison Spinney, PhD
>>> Ethnomusicologist
>>> http://www.annmorrisonspinney.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Oct 31, 2012, at 11:09 AM, George Fulford <single_sculler at ME.COM
>>> <mailto:single_sculler at ME.COM>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I would be very interested in participating in this discussion as I
>>> think that the structure of Algonquian languages challenges the
>>> conventional wisdom of how we understand these two aspects of grammar.
>>>
>>> George Fulford
>>> Department of Anthropology
>>> University of Winnipeg
>>>
>>> On 2012-10-30, at 3:07 PM, Richard RHODES <rrhodes at berkeley.edu
>>> <mailto:rrhodes at berkeley.edu>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Folks,
>>>>
>>>> I'm just putting out a feeler to see if there is interest in
>>>> continuing the syntax morphology discussion online.
>>>>
>>>> It seemed like Julie Brittain's paper on Sunday morning put us right
>>>> in the middle of it again, but half of the folks were already gone by
>>>> then.
>>>>
>>>> Let me know if it's worth talking in this venue.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> Rich Rhodes
>>>>
>>>> Richard A. Rhodes
>>>> Department of Linguistics
>>>> 1203 Dwinelle Hall #2650
>>>> University of California
>>>> Berkeley, 94720
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 16:23:42 -0600
>From: Olivia Sammons <sammons at UALBERTA.CA>
>Subject: Re: Continuing the morphology and syntax discussion
>
>Please count me in as well!
>
>All the best,
>Olivia
>
>
>On Oct 31, 2012, at 12:32 PM, Michael Sullivan Sr wrote:
>
>> I'm interested as well. Please include me in the discussion. Miigwech!
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 10:44 AM, Genee, Inge <inge.genee at uleth.ca>
>>wrote:
>> I think that would be a great idea. Thanks for suggesting it Rich. In
>>order not to flood the listserv with a discussion that may not be
>>relevant for all members we might want to wait and see who expresses an
>>interest and then either set up a separate list or just make a cc-list
>>for the purposes of this discussion.
>> Inge
>> Inge Genee
>> Department of Modern Languages
>> University of Lethbridge
>> 4401 University Drive
>> Lethbridge AB T1K 3M4
>> Canada
>> Ph. +1-403-380-1809
>> Email inge.genee at uleth.ca
>> www.caans-acaen.ca/Journal/
>>
>> From: ALGONQUIANA [ALGONQUIANA at LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG] on behalf of
>>Richard RHODES [rrhodes at BERKELEY.EDU]
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2012 2:07 PM
>> To: ALGONQUIANA at LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG
>> Subject: Continuing the morphology and syntax discussion
>>
>> Folks,
>>
>> I'm just putting out a feeler to see if there is interest in continuing
>>the syntax morphology discussion online.
>>
>> It seemed like Julie Brittain's paper on Sunday morning put us right in
>>the middle of it again, but half of the folks were already gone by then.
>>
>> Let me know if it's worth talking in this venue.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Rich Rhodes
>>
>> Richard A. Rhodes
>> Department of Linguistics
>> 1203 Dwinelle Hall #2650
>> University of California
>> Berkeley, 94720
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Michael Sullivan
>> Lac Courte Oreilles Ojibwe
>> PhD Student- Linguistics
>> University of Minnesota
>>
>>
>
>Olivia N. Sammons
>Doctoral student, Department of Linguistics
>4-32 Assiniboia Hall, University of Alberta
>Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
>sammons at ualberta.ca
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 17:45:00 -0500
>From: Monica Macaulay <mmacaula at WISC.EDU>
>Subject: Re: Continuing the morphology and syntax discussion
>
>Well, we already have the Algonquiana list. Some of us (linguists) had
>thought that the non-linguists would be annoyed to get lots of email
>about linguistics, and that it would be better to form a separate list -
>in fact, I established one on LINGUIST today, but had to email them for
>help because their directions are not the clearest. But there have been
>so many messages today saying that we shouldn't separate the groups, that
>I guess we shouldn't. Unless anyone else wants to speak up on the other
>side of the issue!
>
>If you know of anyone who might like to be on the list but isn't, have
>them go here: http://linguistlist.org/lists/get-lists.cfm, to sign up.
>
>- Monica
>
>On Oct 31, 2012, at 1:37 PM, Tanya Slavin wrote:
>
>> I would be interested too, I think its a great idea. Maybe we could
>> take it out of the e-mail and set up a google group discussion or some
>> other forum like that?
>> tanya.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Robert Brightman <rbrightm at reed.edu>
>>wrote:
>>> Having missed the realtime prototype last Sunday, I'd like to follow a
>>> follow-up.
>>>
>>> Rob Brightman
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10/31/12 9:57 AM, Ann Spinney wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I would also be interested in following the discussion although my
>>>> interests are cognate (I am not a linguist) and I could not attend the
>>>> conference this year. ~Ann
>>>>
>>>> Dr. Ann Morrison Spinney, PhD
>>>> Ethnomusicologist
>>>> http://www.annmorrisonspinney.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Oct 31, 2012, at 11:09 AM, George Fulford <single_sculler at ME.COM
>>>> <mailto:single_sculler at ME.COM>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I would be very interested in participating in this discussion as I
>>>> think that the structure of Algonquian languages challenges the
>>>> conventional wisdom of how we understand these two aspects of grammar.
>>>>
>>>> George Fulford
>>>> Department of Anthropology
>>>> University of Winnipeg
>>>>
>>>> On 2012-10-30, at 3:07 PM, Richard RHODES <rrhodes at berkeley.edu
>>>> <mailto:rrhodes at berkeley.edu>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Folks,
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm just putting out a feeler to see if there is interest in
>>>>> continuing the syntax morphology discussion online.
>>>>>
>>>>> It seemed like Julie Brittain's paper on Sunday morning put us right
>>>>> in the middle of it again, but half of the folks were already gone by
>>>>> then.
>>>>>
>>>>> Let me know if it's worth talking in this venue.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>
>>>>> Rich Rhodes
>>>>>
>>>>> Richard A. Rhodes
>>>>> Department of Linguistics
>>>>> 1203 Dwinelle Hall #2650
>>>>> University of California
>>>>> Berkeley, 94720
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 23:17:01 +0000
>From: "Genee, Inge" <inge.genee at ULETH.CA>
>Subject: Re: Continuing the morphology and syntax discussion
>
>Just to be clear: no one was trying to exclude anyone and no one was
>trying to make a silo or decide that the discussion was on a "need to
>know" basis. We were merely trying to ensure that people would actually
>be wanting to get the discussion posts rather than being annoyed at
>getting stuff they perhaps felt was not relevant. We are all swamped with
>email. If people are happy to listen in without contributing, that is
>absolutely fine.
>I think it's been settled that the discussion will take place on the list
>and that people can delete posts they feel are not of interest to them.
>Inge
>________________________________
>From: ALGONQUIANA [ALGONQUIANA at LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG] on behalf of
>Alicia Colson [alicia.colson at GMAIL.COM]
>Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 3:37 PM
>To: ALGONQUIANA at LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG
>Subject: Re: Continuing the morphology and syntax discussion
>
>Yes, it's Dr Colson. I think that it's important to be included in such
>discussions. But perhaps the desire to create a new list stems from fact
>that people are feeling swamped with email. My view is that it's
>important to undertake holistic research and I know from having had
>linguistic training in five European languages (and Latin) that
>'listening in' gives me information which, as M. Corbiere argues, is very
>useful. The idea that one ought to divvy up knowledge into silos based
>on whether 'one needs to know' something is worrisome.
>
>Best wishes,
>
>Alicia
>
>On 31/10/2012 3:18 PM, Mary Ann Corbiere wrote:
>Dr. (I presume) Colson makes a good point regarding silos. As a teacher
>of Nishnaabemwin who doesn't have any formal linguistic training,
>"listening in" on linguists' discussion often gives me information that
>is very useful. Concepts I glean in this way often help me to clarify the
>changes that my non-linguistics-majors, adult students find so
>bewildering and worrisome. So, I'd like to be kept in the loop even
>though I'd only be a listener.
>M. Corbiere
>
>>>> Alicia Colson
>>>><alicia.colson at GMAIL.COM><mailto:alicia.colson at GMAIL.COM> 10/31/12
>>>>3:55 PM >>>
>Wouldn't it better for the non-linguists to be included in such a
>discussion, rather than be copied in, since otherwise there is a risk of
>yet another silo which are never a good idea. It's much easier to prevent
>a silo than to get rid of them after they've been created. It's not that
>difficult to just press the delete button..and I'd prefer to have this
>option than to remain oblivious.
>
>Best,
>
>Alicia
>
>On 31/10/2012 1:19 PM, Solveiga Armoskaite wrote:
>I would be interested to be on the list for such a discussion
>
>best,
>
>Solveiga
>
>On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 11:44 AM, Genee, Inge
><inge.genee at uleth.ca<mailto:inge.genee at uleth.ca>> wrote:
>I think that would be a great idea. Thanks for suggesting it Rich. In
>order not to flood the listserv with a discussion that may not be
>relevant for all members we might want to wait and see who expresses an
>interest and then either set up a separate list or just make a cc-list
>for the purposes of this discussion.
>Inge
>Inge Genee
>Department of Modern Languages
>University of Lethbridge
>4401 University Drive
>Lethbridge AB T1K 3M4
>Canada
>Ph. +1-403-380-1809<tel:%2B1-403-380-1809>
>Email inge.genee at uleth.ca<mailto:inge.genee at uleth.ca>
>www.caans-acaen.ca/Journal/<http://www.caans-acaen.ca/Journal/>
>
>________________________________
>From: ALGONQUIANA
>[ALGONQUIANA at LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG<mailto:ALGONQUIANA at LISTSERV.LINGUIS
>TLIST.ORG>] on behalf of Richard RHODES
>[rrhodes at BERKELEY.EDU<mailto:rrhodes at BERKELEY.EDU>]
>Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2012 2:07 PM
>To:
>ALGONQUIANA at LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG<mailto:ALGONQUIANA at LISTSERV.LINGUIST
>LIST.ORG>
>Subject: Continuing the morphology and syntax discussion
>
>
>Folks,
>
>I'm just putting out a feeler to see if there is interest in continuing
>the syntax morphology discussion online.
>
>It seemed like Julie Brittain's paper on Sunday morning put us right in
>the middle of it again, but half of the folks were already gone by then.
>
>Let me know if it's worth talking in this venue.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Rich Rhodes
>
>Richard A. Rhodes
>Department of Linguistics
>1203 Dwinelle Hall #2650
>University of California
>Berkeley, 94720
>
>
>
>--
>Sincerely,
>
>Solveiga Armoskaite
>
>
>University of Ottawa
>Department of Linguistics
>Arts Hall
>70 Laurier Avenue East
>Room 401
>Ottawa ON Canada
>K1N 6N5
>
>
>
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 19:18:03 -0400
>From: Christopher Roy <caroy at PSHIFT.COM>
>Subject: Re: Continuing the morphology and syntax discussion
>
>Morphology and syntax may not be my priorities at the moment, but I have
>no
>problem receiving list e-mails that build on this or any other
>discussions
>that took place at the conference.
>
>christopher
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Monica Macaulay
>Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 6:45 PM
>To: ALGONQUIANA at LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG
>Subject: Re: Continuing the morphology and syntax discussion
>
>Well, we already have the Algonquiana list. Some of us (linguists) had
>thought that the non-linguists would be annoyed to get lots of email
>about
>linguistics, and that it would be better to form a separate list - in
>fact,
>I established one on LINGUIST today, but had to email them for help
>because
>their directions are not the clearest. But there have been so many
>messages
>today saying that we shouldn't separate the groups, that I guess we
>shouldn't. Unless anyone else wants to speak up on the other side of the
>issue!
>
>If you know of anyone who might like to be on the list but isn't, have
>them
>go here: http://linguistlist.org/lists/get-lists.cfm, to sign up.
>
>- Monica
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2012 00:49:14 +0100
>From: Kees van Kolmeschate <cvkolmes at HETNET.NL>
>Subject: Re: Continuing the morphology and syntax discussion
>
>Aanii.
>As I am not a linguist, I will not make contributions to the discussion,
>but I love to read them. So please include me.
>gr. Kees van Kolmeschate
>
>From: Richard RHODES
>Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2012 9:07 PM
>To: ALGONQUIANA at LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG
>Subject: Continuing the morphology and syntax discussion
>
>Folks,
>
>I'm just putting out a feeler to see if there is interest in continuing
>the syntax morphology discussion online.
>
>It seemed like Julie Brittain's paper on Sunday morning put us right in
>the middle of it again, but half of the folks were already gone by then.
>
>Let me know if it's worth talking in this venue.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Rich Rhodes
>
>Richard A. Rhodes
>Department of Linguistics
>1203 Dwinelle Hall #2650
>University of California
>Berkeley, 94720
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 22:24:33 -0400
>From: Margaret Noori <mnoori at UMICH.EDU>
>Subject: Re: Continuing the morphology and syntax discussion
>
>Discussions on syntax and morphology would be welcome! Great idea!
>
>Maaganiit
>
>
>
>Zhibiiaan ndo'saab-giigido-biiapkonsing / Sent by my iPhone.
>
>On Oct 30, 2012, at 8:54 PM, Richard RHODES <rrhodes at berkeley.edu> wrote:
>
>Folks,
>
>I'm just putting out a feeler to see if there is interest in continuing
>the
>syntax morphology discussion online.
>
>It seemed like Julie Brittain's paper on Sunday morning put us right in
>the
>middle of it again, but half of the folks were already gone by then.
>
>Let me know if it's worth talking in this venue.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Rich Rhodes
>
>Richard A. Rhodes
>Department of Linguistics
>1203 Dwinelle Hall #2650
>University of California
>Berkeley, 94720
>
>
>------------------------------
>
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