ALGONQUIANA Digest - 30 Oct 2012 to 31 Oct 2012 (#2012-13)
Monica Macaulay
mmacaula at WISC.EDU
Thu Nov 1 22:50:45 UTC 2012
If you'd like to get posts as a digest (once a day) instead of as they roll in, go to http://listserv.linguistlist.org/cgi-bin/wa?A0=ALGONQUIANA, log in, and I think you should get a "subscriber's corner" where you can edit your settings. What you want to do is change "mail style" from "regular" to "digest". Maybe someone could try it & see if I've got the steps right. (I'm an "owner" so I see something different than you all do, so this might not be quite right.)
- Monica
On Oct 31, 2012, at 11:17 PM, Rosen, Nicole wrote:
> I *am* a linguist, and I might not want to be on this (or any) list, not
> out of lack of interest, but out of overabundance of email, so I
> appreciate the efforts/thought to not overload the listserv.
>
> A way of alleviating the cluttered inbox, in case anyone isn't aware, is
> to get Algonquiana in digest form, and go through (or delete! :) ) one
> long message at day's end with all the group's messages compiled.
>
> Nicole
>
> ____________________________________________
> Dr. Nicole Rosen
> Associate Professor, Department of Modern Languages
> University of Lethbridge
> 4401 University Drive
>
> Lethbridge, AB T1K 3M4
> nicole.rosen at uleth.ca
> 403.329.5122 (Office)
> 403.393-2317 (Mobile)
>
>
>
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>
> On 12-10-31 10:00 PM, "ALGONQUIANA automatic digest system"
> <LISTSERV at LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG> wrote:
>
>> There are 20 messages totaling 4595 lines in this issue.
>>
>> Topics of the day:
>>
>> 1. Continuing the morphology and syntax discussion (19)
>> 2. Position at UdeM
>>
>>
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 15:44:39 +0000
>> From: "Genee, Inge" <inge.genee at ULETH.CA>
>> Subject: Re: Continuing the morphology and syntax discussion
>>
>> I think that would be a great idea. Thanks for suggesting it Rich. In
>> order not to flood the listserv with a discussion that may not be
>> relevant for all members we might want to wait and see who expresses an
>> interest and then either set up a separate list or just make a cc-list
>> for the purposes of this discussion.
>> Inge
>> Inge Genee
>> Department of Modern Languages
>> University of Lethbridge
>> 4401 University Drive
>> Lethbridge AB T1K 3M4
>> Canada
>> Ph. +1-403-380-1809
>> Email inge.genee at uleth.ca
>> www.caans-acaen.ca/Journal/<http://www.caans-acaen.ca/Journal/>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: ALGONQUIANA [ALGONQUIANA at LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG] on behalf of
>> Richard RHODES [rrhodes at BERKELEY.EDU]
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2012 2:07 PM
>> To: ALGONQUIANA at LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG
>> Subject: Continuing the morphology and syntax discussion
>>
>>
>> Folks,
>>
>> I'm just putting out a feeler to see if there is interest in continuing
>> the syntax morphology discussion online.
>>
>> It seemed like Julie Brittain's paper on Sunday morning put us right in
>> the middle of it again, but half of the folks were already gone by then.
>>
>> Let me know if it's worth talking in this venue.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Rich Rhodes
>>
>> Richard A. Rhodes
>> Department of Linguistics
>> 1203 Dwinelle Hall #2650
>> University of California
>> Berkeley, 94720
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 10:09:48 -0500
>> From: George Fulford <single_sculler at ME.COM>
>> Subject: Re: Continuing the morphology and syntax discussion
>>
>> I would be very interested in participating in this discussion as I think
>> that the structure of Algonquian languages challenges the conventional
>> wisdom of how we understand these two aspects of grammar.
>>
>> George Fulford
>> Department of Anthropology
>> University of Winnipeg
>>
>> On 2012-10-30, at 3:07 PM, Richard RHODES <rrhodes at berkeley.edu> wrote:
>>
>>> Folks,
>>>
>>> I'm just putting out a feeler to see if there is interest in continuing
>>> the syntax morphology discussion online.
>>>
>>> It seemed like Julie Brittain's paper on Sunday morning put us right in
>>> the middle of it again, but half of the folks were already gone by then.
>>>
>>> Let me know if it's worth talking in this venue.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Rich Rhodes
>>>
>>> Richard A. Rhodes
>>> Department of Linguistics
>>> 1203 Dwinelle Hall #2650
>>> University of California
>>> Berkeley, 94720
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 12:57:07 -0400
>> From: Ann Spinney <anuwit at COMCAST.NET>
>> Subject: Re: Continuing the morphology and syntax discussion
>>
>> I would also be interested in following the discussion although my
>> interests are cognate (I am not a linguist) and I could not attend the
>> conference this year. ~Ann
>>
>> Dr. Ann Morrison Spinney, PhD
>> Ethnomusicologist
>> http://www.annmorrisonspinney.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Oct 31, 2012, at 11:09 AM, George Fulford <single_sculler at ME.COM>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I would be very interested in participating in this discussion as I think
>> that the structure of Algonquian languages challenges the conventional
>> wisdom of how we understand these two aspects of grammar.
>>
>> George Fulford
>> Department of Anthropology
>> University of Winnipeg
>>
>> On 2012-10-30, at 3:07 PM, Richard RHODES <rrhodes at berkeley.edu> wrote:
>>
>>> Folks,
>>>
>>> I'm just putting out a feeler to see if there is interest in continuing
>>> the syntax morphology discussion online.
>>>
>>> It seemed like Julie Brittain's paper on Sunday morning put us right in
>>> the middle of it again, but half of the folks were already gone by then.
>>>
>>> Let me know if it's worth talking in this venue.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Rich Rhodes
>>>
>>> Richard A. Rhodes
>>> Department of Linguistics
>>> 1203 Dwinelle Hall #2650
>>> University of California
>>> Berkeley, 94720
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 14:19:07 -0400
>> From: Solveiga Armoskaite <solveiga.armoskaite at GMAIL.COM>
>> Subject: Re: Continuing the morphology and syntax discussion
>>
>> I would be interested to be on the list for such a discussion
>>
>> best,
>>
>> Solveiga
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 11:44 AM, Genee, Inge <inge.genee at uleth.ca> wrote:
>>
>>> I think that would be a great idea. Thanks for suggesting it Rich. In
>>> order not to flood the listserv with a discussion that may not be
>>> relevant
>>> for all members we might want to wait and see who expresses an interest
>>> and
>>> then either set up a separate list or just make a cc-list for the
>>> purposes
>>> of this discussion.
>>> Inge
>>> Inge Genee
>>> Department of Modern Languages
>>> University of Lethbridge
>>> 4401 University Drive
>>> Lethbridge AB T1K 3M4
>>> Canada
>>> Ph. +1-403-380-1809
>>> Email inge.genee at uleth.ca
>>> www.caans-acaen.ca/Journal/
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>> *From:* ALGONQUIANA [ALGONQUIANA at LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG] on behalf of
>>> Richard RHODES [rrhodes at BERKELEY.EDU]
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 30, 2012 2:07 PM
>>> *To:* ALGONQUIANA at LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG
>>> *Subject:* Continuing the morphology and syntax discussion
>>>
>>> Folks,
>>>
>>> I'm just putting out a feeler to see if there is interest in continuing
>>> the syntax morphology discussion online.
>>>
>>> It seemed like Julie Brittain's paper on Sunday morning put us right in
>>> the middle of it again, but half of the folks were already gone by then.
>>>
>>> Let me know if it's worth talking in this venue.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Rich Rhodes
>>>
>>> Richard A. Rhodes
>>> Department of Linguistics
>>> 1203 Dwinelle Hall #2650
>>> University of California
>>> Berkeley, 94720
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> Solveiga Armoskaite
>>
>>
>> *University of Ottawa*
>> *Department of Linguistics *
>> Arts Hall
>> 70 Laurier Avenue East
>> Room 401
>> Ottawa ON Canada
>> K1N 6N5
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 11:12:08 -0700
>> From: Robert Brightman <rbrightm at REED.EDU>
>> Subject: Re: Continuing the morphology and syntax discussion
>>
>> Having missed the realtime prototype last Sunday, I'd like to follow a
>> follow-up.
>>
>> Rob Brightman
>>
>> On 10/31/12 9:57 AM, Ann Spinney wrote:
>>> I would also be interested in following the discussion although my
>>> interests are cognate (I am not a linguist) and I could not attend the
>>> conference this year. ~Ann
>>>
>>> Dr. Ann Morrison Spinney, PhD
>>> Ethnomusicologist
>>> http://www.annmorrisonspinney.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Oct 31, 2012, at 11:09 AM, George Fulford <single_sculler at ME.COM
>>> <mailto:single_sculler at ME.COM>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I would be very interested in participating in this discussion as I
>>> think that the structure of Algonquian languages challenges the
>>> conventional wisdom of how we understand these two aspects of grammar.
>>>
>>> George Fulford
>>> Department of Anthropology
>>> University of Winnipeg
>>>
>>> On 2012-10-30, at 3:07 PM, Richard RHODES <rrhodes at berkeley.edu
>>> <mailto:rrhodes at berkeley.edu>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Folks,
>>>>
>>>> I'm just putting out a feeler to see if there is interest in
>>>> continuing the syntax morphology discussion online.
>>>>
>>>> It seemed like Julie Brittain's paper on Sunday morning put us right
>>>> in the middle of it again, but half of the folks were already gone by
>>>> then.
>>>>
>>>> Let me know if it's worth talking in this venue.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> Rich Rhodes
>>>>
>>>> Richard A. Rhodes
>>>> Department of Linguistics
>>>> 1203 Dwinelle Hall #2650
>>>> University of California
>>>> Berkeley, 94720
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 12:46:28 -0400
>> From: Marie-Pierre Bousquet <marie-pierre.bousquet at UMONTREAL.CA>
>> Subject: Position at UdeM
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> There is a position opening for a prof in ethnolinguistic at Universite de
>> Montreal that could be of interest for you or for people you know. Please
>> circulate.
>> MP Bousquet.
>> --
>> Dr Marie-Pierre Bousquet
>> Professeure agrégée/Associate professor
>> Département d'anthropologie
>> Université de Montréal
>> C.P. 6128, succ. Centre-ville
>> Montréal (Qc) H3C 3J7
>> CANADA
>> Tel: 514-343-2152
>> marie-pierre.bousquet at umontreal.ca
>> www.graaq.ca
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 12:17:51 -0500
>> From: Monica Macaulay <mmacaula at WISC.EDU>
>> Subject: Re: Continuing the morphology and syntax discussion
>>
>> Lynn Drapeau and I talked last year about setting up a list just for the
>> Algonquianist linguists (so you non-linguists wouldn't have to delete all
>> our messages!) - I'll try to get that set up today or tomorrow.
>>
>> Stay tuned,
>> Monica
>>
>> On Oct 31, 2012, at 10:09 AM, George Fulford wrote:
>>
>>> I would be very interested in participating in this discussion as I
>>> think that the structure of Algonquian languages challenges the
>>> conventional wisdom of how we understand these two aspects of grammar.
>>>
>>> George Fulford
>>> Department of Anthropology
>>> University of Winnipeg
>>>
>>> On 2012-10-30, at 3:07 PM, Richard RHODES <rrhodes at berkeley.edu> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Folks,
>>>>
>>>> I'm just putting out a feeler to see if there is interest in
>>>> continuing the syntax morphology discussion online.
>>>>
>>>> It seemed like Julie Brittain's paper on Sunday morning put us right
>>>> in the middle of it again, but half of the folks were already gone by
>>>> then.
>>>>
>>>> Let me know if it's worth talking in this venue.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> Rich Rhodes
>>>>
>>>> Richard A. Rhodes
>>>> Department of Linguistics
>>>> 1203 Dwinelle Hall #2650
>>>> University of California
>>>> Berkeley, 94720
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 14:04:03 -0500
>> From: Stephanie Morse <stephaniemorse at UMAIL.UCSB.EDU>
>> Subject: Re: Continuing the morphology and syntax discussion
>>
>> Likewise!
>>
>> ~Stephanie
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 1:12 PM, Robert Brightman <rbrightm at reed.edu>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Having missed the realtime prototype last Sunday, I'd like to follow a
>>> follow-up.
>>>
>>> Rob Brightman
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10/31/12 9:57 AM, Ann Spinney wrote:
>>>
>>>> I would also be interested in following the discussion although my
>>>> interests are cognate (I am not a linguist) and I could not attend the
>>>> conference this year. ~Ann
>>>>
>>>> Dr. Ann Morrison Spinney, PhD
>>>> Ethnomusicologist
>>>> http://www.annmorrisonspinney.**com <http://www.annmorrisonspinney.com>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Oct 31, 2012, at 11:09 AM, George Fulford <single_sculler at ME.COM
>>>> <mailto:single_sculler at ME.COM>**> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I would be very interested in participating in this discussion as I
>>>> think that the structure of Algonquian languages challenges the
>>>> conventional wisdom of how we understand these two aspects of grammar.
>>>>
>>>> George Fulford
>>>> Department of Anthropology
>>>> University of Winnipeg
>>>>
>>>> On 2012-10-30, at 3:07 PM, Richard RHODES <rrhodes at berkeley.edu
>>>> <mailto:rrhodes at berkeley.edu>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Folks,
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm just putting out a feeler to see if there is interest in
>>>>> continuing the syntax morphology discussion online.
>>>>>
>>>>> It seemed like Julie Brittain's paper on Sunday morning put us right
>>>>> in the middle of it again, but half of the folks were already gone by
>>>>> then.
>>>>>
>>>>> Let me know if it's worth talking in this venue.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>
>>>>> Rich Rhodes
>>>>>
>>>>> Richard A. Rhodes
>>>>> Department of Linguistics
>>>>> 1203 Dwinelle Hall #2650
>>>>> University of California
>>>>> Berkeley, 94720
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 14:33:30 -0500
>> From: Alicia Colson <alicia.colson at GMAIL.COM>
>> Subject: Re: Continuing the morphology and syntax discussion
>>
>> Wouldn't it better for the non-linguists to be included in such a
>> discussion, rather than be copied in, since otherwise there is a risk of
>> yet another silo which are never a good idea. It's much easier to
>> prevent a silo than to get rid of them after they've been created. It's
>> not that difficult to just press the delete button..and I'd prefer to
>> have this option than to remain oblivious.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Alicia
>>
>> On 31/10/2012 1:19 PM, Solveiga Armoskaite wrote:
>>> I would be interested to be on the list for such a discussion
>>>
>>> best,
>>>
>>> Solveiga
>>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 11:44 AM, Genee, Inge <inge.genee at uleth.ca
>>> <mailto:inge.genee at uleth.ca>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I think that would be a great idea. Thanks for suggesting it Rich.
>>> In order not to flood the listserv with a discussion that may not
>>> be relevant for all members we might want to wait and see who
>>> expresses an interest and then either set up a separate list or
>>> just make a cc-list for the purposes of this discussion.
>>> Inge
>>> Inge Genee
>>> Department of Modern Languages
>>> University of Lethbridge
>>> 4401 University Drive
>>> Lethbridge AB T1K 3M4
>>> Canada
>>> Ph. +1-403-380-1809 <tel:%2B1-403-380-1809>
>>> Email inge.genee at uleth.ca <mailto:inge.genee at uleth.ca>
>>> www.caans-acaen.ca/Journal/ <http://www.caans-acaen.ca/Journal/>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> *From:* ALGONQUIANA [ALGONQUIANA at LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG
>>> <mailto:ALGONQUIANA at LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG>] on behalf of
>>> Richard RHODES [rrhodes at BERKELEY.EDU <mailto:rrhodes at BERKELEY.EDU>]
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 30, 2012 2:07 PM
>>> *To:* ALGONQUIANA at LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG
>>> <mailto:ALGONQUIANA at LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG>
>>> *Subject:* Continuing the morphology and syntax discussion
>>>
>>> Folks,
>>>
>>> I'm just putting out a feeler to see if there is interest in
>>> continuing the syntax morphology discussion online.
>>>
>>> It seemed like Julie Brittain's paper on Sunday morning put us
>>> right in the middle of it again, but half of the folks were
>>> already gone by then.
>>>
>>> Let me know if it's worth talking in this venue.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Rich Rhodes
>>>
>>> Richard A. Rhodes
>>> Department of Linguistics
>>> 1203 Dwinelle Hall #2650
>>> University of California
>>> Berkeley, 94720
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Sincerely,
>>>
>>> Solveiga Armoskaite
>>>
>>>
>>> *University of Ottawa*
>>> *Department of Linguistics *
>>> Arts Hall
>>> 70 Laurier Avenue East
>>> Room 401
>>> Ottawa ON Canada
>>> K1N 6N5
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 13:32:56 -0500
>> From: Michael Sullivan Sr <sulli720 at UMN.EDU>
>> Subject: Re: Continuing the morphology and syntax discussion
>>
>> I'm interested as well. Please include me in the discussion. Miigwech!
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 10:44 AM, Genee, Inge <inge.genee at uleth.ca> wrote:
>>
>>> I think that would be a great idea. Thanks for suggesting it Rich. In
>>> order not to flood the listserv with a discussion that may not be
>>> relevant
>>> for all members we might want to wait and see who expresses an interest
>>> and
>>> then either set up a separate list or just make a cc-list for the
>>> purposes
>>> of this discussion.
>>> Inge
>>> Inge Genee
>>> Department of Modern Languages
>>> University of Lethbridge
>>> 4401 University Drive
>>> Lethbridge AB T1K 3M4
>>> Canada
>>> Ph. +1-403-380-1809
>>> Email inge.genee at uleth.ca
>>> www.caans-acaen.ca/Journal/
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>> *From:* ALGONQUIANA [ALGONQUIANA at LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG] on behalf of
>>> Richard RHODES [rrhodes at BERKELEY.EDU]
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 30, 2012 2:07 PM
>>> *To:* ALGONQUIANA at LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG
>>> *Subject:* Continuing the morphology and syntax discussion
>>>
>>> Folks,
>>>
>>> I'm just putting out a feeler to see if there is interest in continuing
>>> the syntax morphology discussion online.
>>>
>>> It seemed like Julie Brittain's paper on Sunday morning put us right in
>>> the middle of it again, but half of the folks were already gone by then.
>>>
>>> Let me know if it's worth talking in this venue.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Rich Rhodes
>>>
>>> Richard A. Rhodes
>>> Department of Linguistics
>>> 1203 Dwinelle Hall #2650
>>> University of California
>>> Berkeley, 94720
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Michael Sullivan
>> Lac Courte Oreilles Ojibwe
>> PhD Student- Linguistics
>> University of Minnesota
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 20:07:37 +0000
>> From: Michael Hamilton <michael.hamilton at MAIL.MCGILL.CA>
>> Subject: Re: Continuing the morphology and syntax discussion
>>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> I would love to be included in the discussion!
>>
>> Thank you very much,
>>
>> Michael David Hamilton
>> PhD Candidate
>> McGill University
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: ALGONQUIANA [ALGONQUIANA at LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG] on behalf of
>> Monica Macaulay [mmacaula at WISC.EDU]
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 01:17 PM
>> To: ALGONQUIANA at LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG
>> Subject: Re: Continuing the morphology and syntax discussion
>>
>> Lynn Drapeau and I talked last year about setting up a list just for the
>> Algonquianist linguists (so you non-linguists wouldn't have to delete all
>> our messages!) - I'll try to get that set up today or tomorrow.
>>
>> Stay tuned,
>> Monica
>>
>> On Oct 31, 2012, at 10:09 AM, George Fulford wrote:
>>
>> I would be very interested in participating in this discussion as I think
>> that the structure of Algonquian languages challenges the conventional
>> wisdom of how we understand these two aspects of grammar.
>>
>> George Fulford
>> Department of Anthropology
>> University of Winnipeg
>>
>> On 2012-10-30, at 3:07 PM, Richard RHODES
>> <rrhodes at berkeley.edu<mailto:rrhodes at berkeley.edu>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Folks,
>>
>> I'm just putting out a feeler to see if there is interest in continuing
>> the syntax morphology discussion online.
>>
>> It seemed like Julie Brittain's paper on Sunday morning put us right in
>> the middle of it again, but half of the folks were already gone by then.
>>
>> Let me know if it's worth talking in this venue.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Rich Rhodes
>>
>> Richard A. Rhodes
>> Department of Linguistics
>> 1203 Dwinelle Hall #2650
>> University of California
>> Berkeley, 94720
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 11:25:28 -0400
>> From: Charles Bishop <CBISHOP1 at NYCAP.RR.COM>
>> Subject: Re: Continuing the morphology and syntax discussion
>>
>> Hi Richard,
>>
>> Sorry that I couldn't be at this year's AC. What was Julie's point?
>>
>> Charles
>>
>>
>> On Oct 30, 2012, at 4:07 PM, Richard RHODES wrote:
>>
>>> Folks,
>>>
>>> I'm just putting out a feeler to see if there is interest in continuing
>>> the syntax morphology discussion online.
>>>
>>> It seemed like Julie Brittain's paper on Sunday morning put us right in
>>> the middle of it again, but half of the folks were already gone by then.
>>>
>>> Let me know if it's worth talking in this venue.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Rich Rhodes
>>>
>>> Richard A. Rhodes
>>> Department of Linguistics
>>> 1203 Dwinelle Hall #2650
>>> University of California
>>> Berkeley, 94720
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 16:37:32 -0500
>> From: Alicia Colson <alicia.colson at GMAIL.COM>
>> Subject: Re: Continuing the morphology and syntax discussion
>>
>> Yes, it's Dr Colson. I think that it's important to be included in such
>> discussions. But perhaps the desire to create a new list stems from fact
>> that people are feeling swamped with email. My view is that it's
>> important to undertake holistic research and I know from having had
>> linguistic training in five European languages (and Latin) that
>> 'listening in' gives me information which, as M. Corbiere argues, is
>> very useful. The idea that one ought to divvy up knowledge into silos
>> based on whether 'one needs to know' something is worrisome.
>>
>> Best wishes,
>>
>> Alicia
>>
>> On 31/10/2012 3:18 PM, Mary Ann Corbiere wrote:
>>> Dr. (I presume) Colson makes a good point regarding silos. As a
>>> teacher of Nishnaabemwin who doesn't have any formal linguistic
>>> training, "listening in" on linguists' discussion often gives me
>>> information that is very useful. Concepts I glean in this way often
>>> help me to clarify the changes that my non-linguistics-majors, adult
>>> students find so bewildering and worrisome. So, I'd like to be kept in
>>> the loop even though I'd only be a listener.
>>> M. Corbiere
>>>
>>>>>> Alicia Colson <alicia.colson at GMAIL.COM> 10/31/12 3:55 PM >>>
>>> Wouldn't it better for the non-linguists to be included in such a
>>> discussion, rather than be copied in, since otherwise there is a risk
>>> of yet another silo which are never a good idea. It's much easier to
>>> prevent a silo than to get rid of them after they've been created.
>>> It's not that difficult to just press the delete button..and I'd
>>> prefer to have this option than to remain oblivious.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Alicia
>>>
>>> On 31/10/2012 1:19 PM, Solveiga Armoskaite wrote:
>>>> I would be interested to be on the list for such a discussion
>>>>
>>>> best,
>>>>
>>>> Solveiga
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 11:44 AM, Genee, Inge <inge.genee at uleth.ca
>>>> <mailto:inge.genee at uleth.ca>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I think that would be a great idea. Thanks for suggesting it
>>>> Rich. In order not to flood the listserv with a discussion that
>>>> may not be relevant for all members we might want to wait and see
>>>> who expresses an interest and then either set up a separate list
>>>> or just make a cc-list for the purposes of this discussion.
>>>> Inge
>>>> Inge Genee
>>>> Department of Modern Languages
>>>> University of Lethbridge
>>>> 4401 University Drive
>>>> Lethbridge AB T1K 3M4
>>>> Canada
>>>> Ph. +1-403-380-1809 <tel:%2B1-403-380-1809>
>>>> Email inge.genee at uleth.ca <mailto:inge.genee at uleth.ca>
>>>> www.caans-acaen.ca/Journal/ <http://www.caans-acaen.ca/Journal/>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> *From:* ALGONQUIANA [ALGONQUIANA at LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG
>>>> <mailto:ALGONQUIANA at LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG>] on behalf of
>>>> Richard RHODES [rrhodes at BERKELEY.EDU <mailto:rrhodes at BERKELEY.EDU>]
>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 30, 2012 2:07 PM
>>>> *To:* ALGONQUIANA at LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG
>>>> <mailto:ALGONQUIANA at LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG>
>>>> *Subject:* Continuing the morphology and syntax discussion
>>>>
>>>> Folks,
>>>>
>>>> I'm just putting out a feeler to see if there is interest in
>>>> continuing the syntax morphology discussion online.
>>>>
>>>> It seemed like Julie Brittain's paper on Sunday morning put us
>>>> right in the middle of it again, but half of the folks were
>>>> already gone by then.
>>>>
>>>> Let me know if it's worth talking in this venue.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> Rich Rhodes
>>>>
>>>> Richard A. Rhodes
>>>> Department of Linguistics
>>>> 1203 Dwinelle Hall #2650
>>>> University of California
>>>> Berkeley, 94720
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>
>>>> Solveiga Armoskaite
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *University of Ottawa*
>>>> *Department of Linguistics *
>>>> Arts Hall
>>>> 70 Laurier Avenue East
>>>> Room 401
>>>> Ottawa ON Canada
>>>> K1N 6N5
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 14:37:45 -0400
>> From: Tanya Slavin <tanya.slavin at GMAIL.COM>
>> Subject: Re: Continuing the morphology and syntax discussion
>>
>> I would be interested too, I think its a great idea. Maybe we could
>> take it out of the e-mail and set up a google group discussion or some
>> other forum like that?
>> tanya.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Robert Brightman <rbrightm at reed.edu>
>> wrote:
>>> Having missed the realtime prototype last Sunday, I'd like to follow a
>>> follow-up.
>>>
>>> Rob Brightman
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10/31/12 9:57 AM, Ann Spinney wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I would also be interested in following the discussion although my
>>>> interests are cognate (I am not a linguist) and I could not attend the
>>>> conference this year. ~Ann
>>>>
>>>> Dr. Ann Morrison Spinney, PhD
>>>> Ethnomusicologist
>>>> http://www.annmorrisonspinney.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Oct 31, 2012, at 11:09 AM, George Fulford <single_sculler at ME.COM
>>>> <mailto:single_sculler at ME.COM>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I would be very interested in participating in this discussion as I
>>>> think that the structure of Algonquian languages challenges the
>>>> conventional wisdom of how we understand these two aspects of grammar.
>>>>
>>>> George Fulford
>>>> Department of Anthropology
>>>> University of Winnipeg
>>>>
>>>> On 2012-10-30, at 3:07 PM, Richard RHODES <rrhodes at berkeley.edu
>>>> <mailto:rrhodes at berkeley.edu>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Folks,
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm just putting out a feeler to see if there is interest in
>>>>> continuing the syntax morphology discussion online.
>>>>>
>>>>> It seemed like Julie Brittain's paper on Sunday morning put us right
>>>>> in the middle of it again, but half of the folks were already gone by
>>>>> then.
>>>>>
>>>>> Let me know if it's worth talking in this venue.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>
>>>>> Rich Rhodes
>>>>>
>>>>> Richard A. Rhodes
>>>>> Department of Linguistics
>>>>> 1203 Dwinelle Hall #2650
>>>>> University of California
>>>>> Berkeley, 94720
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 16:23:42 -0600
>> From: Olivia Sammons <sammons at UALBERTA.CA>
>> Subject: Re: Continuing the morphology and syntax discussion
>>
>> Please count me in as well!
>>
>> All the best,
>> Olivia
>>
>>
>> On Oct 31, 2012, at 12:32 PM, Michael Sullivan Sr wrote:
>>
>>> I'm interested as well. Please include me in the discussion. Miigwech!
>>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 10:44 AM, Genee, Inge <inge.genee at uleth.ca>
>>> wrote:
>>> I think that would be a great idea. Thanks for suggesting it Rich. In
>>> order not to flood the listserv with a discussion that may not be
>>> relevant for all members we might want to wait and see who expresses an
>>> interest and then either set up a separate list or just make a cc-list
>>> for the purposes of this discussion.
>>> Inge
>>> Inge Genee
>>> Department of Modern Languages
>>> University of Lethbridge
>>> 4401 University Drive
>>> Lethbridge AB T1K 3M4
>>> Canada
>>> Ph. +1-403-380-1809
>>> Email inge.genee at uleth.ca
>>> www.caans-acaen.ca/Journal/
>>>
>>> From: ALGONQUIANA [ALGONQUIANA at LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG] on behalf of
>>> Richard RHODES [rrhodes at BERKELEY.EDU]
>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2012 2:07 PM
>>> To: ALGONQUIANA at LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG
>>> Subject: Continuing the morphology and syntax discussion
>>>
>>> Folks,
>>>
>>> I'm just putting out a feeler to see if there is interest in continuing
>>> the syntax morphology discussion online.
>>>
>>> It seemed like Julie Brittain's paper on Sunday morning put us right in
>>> the middle of it again, but half of the folks were already gone by then.
>>>
>>> Let me know if it's worth talking in this venue.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Rich Rhodes
>>>
>>> Richard A. Rhodes
>>> Department of Linguistics
>>> 1203 Dwinelle Hall #2650
>>> University of California
>>> Berkeley, 94720
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Michael Sullivan
>>> Lac Courte Oreilles Ojibwe
>>> PhD Student- Linguistics
>>> University of Minnesota
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Olivia N. Sammons
>> Doctoral student, Department of Linguistics
>> 4-32 Assiniboia Hall, University of Alberta
>> Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
>> sammons at ualberta.ca
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 17:45:00 -0500
>> From: Monica Macaulay <mmacaula at WISC.EDU>
>> Subject: Re: Continuing the morphology and syntax discussion
>>
>> Well, we already have the Algonquiana list. Some of us (linguists) had
>> thought that the non-linguists would be annoyed to get lots of email
>> about linguistics, and that it would be better to form a separate list -
>> in fact, I established one on LINGUIST today, but had to email them for
>> help because their directions are not the clearest. But there have been
>> so many messages today saying that we shouldn't separate the groups, that
>> I guess we shouldn't. Unless anyone else wants to speak up on the other
>> side of the issue!
>>
>> If you know of anyone who might like to be on the list but isn't, have
>> them go here: http://linguistlist.org/lists/get-lists.cfm, to sign up.
>>
>> - Monica
>>
>> On Oct 31, 2012, at 1:37 PM, Tanya Slavin wrote:
>>
>>> I would be interested too, I think its a great idea. Maybe we could
>>> take it out of the e-mail and set up a google group discussion or some
>>> other forum like that?
>>> tanya.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Robert Brightman <rbrightm at reed.edu>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Having missed the realtime prototype last Sunday, I'd like to follow a
>>>> follow-up.
>>>>
>>>> Rob Brightman
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 10/31/12 9:57 AM, Ann Spinney wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I would also be interested in following the discussion although my
>>>>> interests are cognate (I am not a linguist) and I could not attend the
>>>>> conference this year. ~Ann
>>>>>
>>>>> Dr. Ann Morrison Spinney, PhD
>>>>> Ethnomusicologist
>>>>> http://www.annmorrisonspinney.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Oct 31, 2012, at 11:09 AM, George Fulford <single_sculler at ME.COM
>>>>> <mailto:single_sculler at ME.COM>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I would be very interested in participating in this discussion as I
>>>>> think that the structure of Algonquian languages challenges the
>>>>> conventional wisdom of how we understand these two aspects of grammar.
>>>>>
>>>>> George Fulford
>>>>> Department of Anthropology
>>>>> University of Winnipeg
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2012-10-30, at 3:07 PM, Richard RHODES <rrhodes at berkeley.edu
>>>>> <mailto:rrhodes at berkeley.edu>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Folks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm just putting out a feeler to see if there is interest in
>>>>>> continuing the syntax morphology discussion online.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It seemed like Julie Brittain's paper on Sunday morning put us right
>>>>>> in the middle of it again, but half of the folks were already gone by
>>>>>> then.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Let me know if it's worth talking in this venue.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rich Rhodes
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Richard A. Rhodes
>>>>>> Department of Linguistics
>>>>>> 1203 Dwinelle Hall #2650
>>>>>> University of California
>>>>>> Berkeley, 94720
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 23:17:01 +0000
>> From: "Genee, Inge" <inge.genee at ULETH.CA>
>> Subject: Re: Continuing the morphology and syntax discussion
>>
>> Just to be clear: no one was trying to exclude anyone and no one was
>> trying to make a silo or decide that the discussion was on a "need to
>> know" basis. We were merely trying to ensure that people would actually
>> be wanting to get the discussion posts rather than being annoyed at
>> getting stuff they perhaps felt was not relevant. We are all swamped with
>> email. If people are happy to listen in without contributing, that is
>> absolutely fine.
>> I think it's been settled that the discussion will take place on the list
>> and that people can delete posts they feel are not of interest to them.
>> Inge
>> ________________________________
>> From: ALGONQUIANA [ALGONQUIANA at LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG] on behalf of
>> Alicia Colson [alicia.colson at GMAIL.COM]
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 3:37 PM
>> To: ALGONQUIANA at LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG
>> Subject: Re: Continuing the morphology and syntax discussion
>>
>> Yes, it's Dr Colson. I think that it's important to be included in such
>> discussions. But perhaps the desire to create a new list stems from fact
>> that people are feeling swamped with email. My view is that it's
>> important to undertake holistic research and I know from having had
>> linguistic training in five European languages (and Latin) that
>> 'listening in' gives me information which, as M. Corbiere argues, is very
>> useful. The idea that one ought to divvy up knowledge into silos based
>> on whether 'one needs to know' something is worrisome.
>>
>> Best wishes,
>>
>> Alicia
>>
>> On 31/10/2012 3:18 PM, Mary Ann Corbiere wrote:
>> Dr. (I presume) Colson makes a good point regarding silos. As a teacher
>> of Nishnaabemwin who doesn't have any formal linguistic training,
>> "listening in" on linguists' discussion often gives me information that
>> is very useful. Concepts I glean in this way often help me to clarify the
>> changes that my non-linguistics-majors, adult students find so
>> bewildering and worrisome. So, I'd like to be kept in the loop even
>> though I'd only be a listener.
>> M. Corbiere
>>
>>>>> Alicia Colson
>>>>> <alicia.colson at GMAIL.COM><mailto:alicia.colson at GMAIL.COM> 10/31/12
>>>>> 3:55 PM >>>
>> Wouldn't it better for the non-linguists to be included in such a
>> discussion, rather than be copied in, since otherwise there is a risk of
>> yet another silo which are never a good idea. It's much easier to prevent
>> a silo than to get rid of them after they've been created. It's not that
>> difficult to just press the delete button..and I'd prefer to have this
>> option than to remain oblivious.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Alicia
>>
>> On 31/10/2012 1:19 PM, Solveiga Armoskaite wrote:
>> I would be interested to be on the list for such a discussion
>>
>> best,
>>
>> Solveiga
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 11:44 AM, Genee, Inge
>> <inge.genee at uleth.ca<mailto:inge.genee at uleth.ca>> wrote:
>> I think that would be a great idea. Thanks for suggesting it Rich. In
>> order not to flood the listserv with a discussion that may not be
>> relevant for all members we might want to wait and see who expresses an
>> interest and then either set up a separate list or just make a cc-list
>> for the purposes of this discussion.
>> Inge
>> Inge Genee
>> Department of Modern Languages
>> University of Lethbridge
>> 4401 University Drive
>> Lethbridge AB T1K 3M4
>> Canada
>> Ph. +1-403-380-1809<tel:%2B1-403-380-1809>
>> Email inge.genee at uleth.ca<mailto:inge.genee at uleth.ca>
>> www.caans-acaen.ca/Journal/<http://www.caans-acaen.ca/Journal/>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: ALGONQUIANA
>> [ALGONQUIANA at LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG<mailto:ALGONQUIANA at LISTSERV.LINGUIS
>> TLIST.ORG>] on behalf of Richard RHODES
>> [rrhodes at BERKELEY.EDU<mailto:rrhodes at BERKELEY.EDU>]
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2012 2:07 PM
>> To:
>> ALGONQUIANA at LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG<mailto:ALGONQUIANA at LISTSERV.LINGUIST
>> LIST.ORG>
>> Subject: Continuing the morphology and syntax discussion
>>
>>
>> Folks,
>>
>> I'm just putting out a feeler to see if there is interest in continuing
>> the syntax morphology discussion online.
>>
>> It seemed like Julie Brittain's paper on Sunday morning put us right in
>> the middle of it again, but half of the folks were already gone by then.
>>
>> Let me know if it's worth talking in this venue.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Rich Rhodes
>>
>> Richard A. Rhodes
>> Department of Linguistics
>> 1203 Dwinelle Hall #2650
>> University of California
>> Berkeley, 94720
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> Solveiga Armoskaite
>>
>>
>> University of Ottawa
>> Department of Linguistics
>> Arts Hall
>> 70 Laurier Avenue East
>> Room 401
>> Ottawa ON Canada
>> K1N 6N5
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 19:18:03 -0400
>> From: Christopher Roy <caroy at PSHIFT.COM>
>> Subject: Re: Continuing the morphology and syntax discussion
>>
>> Morphology and syntax may not be my priorities at the moment, but I have
>> no
>> problem receiving list e-mails that build on this or any other
>> discussions
>> that took place at the conference.
>>
>> christopher
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Monica Macaulay
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 6:45 PM
>> To: ALGONQUIANA at LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG
>> Subject: Re: Continuing the morphology and syntax discussion
>>
>> Well, we already have the Algonquiana list. Some of us (linguists) had
>> thought that the non-linguists would be annoyed to get lots of email
>> about
>> linguistics, and that it would be better to form a separate list - in
>> fact,
>> I established one on LINGUIST today, but had to email them for help
>> because
>> their directions are not the clearest. But there have been so many
>> messages
>> today saying that we shouldn't separate the groups, that I guess we
>> shouldn't. Unless anyone else wants to speak up on the other side of the
>> issue!
>>
>> If you know of anyone who might like to be on the list but isn't, have
>> them
>> go here: http://linguistlist.org/lists/get-lists.cfm, to sign up.
>>
>> - Monica
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2012 00:49:14 +0100
>> From: Kees van Kolmeschate <cvkolmes at HETNET.NL>
>> Subject: Re: Continuing the morphology and syntax discussion
>>
>> Aanii.
>> As I am not a linguist, I will not make contributions to the discussion,
>> but I love to read them. So please include me.
>> gr. Kees van Kolmeschate
>>
>> From: Richard RHODES
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2012 9:07 PM
>> To: ALGONQUIANA at LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG
>> Subject: Continuing the morphology and syntax discussion
>>
>> Folks,
>>
>> I'm just putting out a feeler to see if there is interest in continuing
>> the syntax morphology discussion online.
>>
>> It seemed like Julie Brittain's paper on Sunday morning put us right in
>> the middle of it again, but half of the folks were already gone by then.
>>
>> Let me know if it's worth talking in this venue.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Rich Rhodes
>>
>> Richard A. Rhodes
>> Department of Linguistics
>> 1203 Dwinelle Hall #2650
>> University of California
>> Berkeley, 94720
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 22:24:33 -0400
>> From: Margaret Noori <mnoori at UMICH.EDU>
>> Subject: Re: Continuing the morphology and syntax discussion
>>
>> Discussions on syntax and morphology would be welcome! Great idea!
>>
>> Maaganiit
>>
>>
>>
>> Zhibiiaan ndo'saab-giigido-biiapkonsing / Sent by my iPhone.
>>
>> On Oct 30, 2012, at 8:54 PM, Richard RHODES <rrhodes at berkeley.edu> wrote:
>>
>> Folks,
>>
>> I'm just putting out a feeler to see if there is interest in continuing
>> the
>> syntax morphology discussion online.
>>
>> It seemed like Julie Brittain's paper on Sunday morning put us right in
>> the
>> middle of it again, but half of the folks were already gone by then.
>>
>> Let me know if it's worth talking in this venue.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Rich Rhodes
>>
>> Richard A. Rhodes
>> Department of Linguistics
>> 1203 Dwinelle Hall #2650
>> University of California
>> Berkeley, 94720
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
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