Menominee/Cree vowel correspondence

[Sarah Lundquist]

Hi all,


Many thanks for the helpful replies to my question.  I am looking into the
resources that have been suggested thus far and I'm excited to see where
they lead.



I’ve reached out in private correspondence to those who have offered their
assistance, and I will be in touch with them with regard to their
particular areas of expertise surrounding this topic.  I will, of course,
welcome any further input that may be offered.  It’s been wonderful to
receive such genuine and promising replies from this group.


Best,


Sarah


On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 4:35 AM, Guillaume Jacques <rgyalrongskad at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Dear Sarah,
>
> First of all, comparing Cree and Menominee directly might be difficult
> because Cree merges short *e and *i, while Menominee has undergone a very
> complex vseries of owel shifts that depends on many factors, including
> number of vowels in the word, presence of a glottal cluster in the first
> syllable of the word etc. Rather than Bloomfield's sketchy account, I would
> suggest reading Hockett's detailed article (I can provide a copy if your
> institution does not allow access to this journal):
>
> Hockett, C. F. 1981. The Phonological History of Menominee.
> Anthropological Linguistics 23. 51-87.
>
> However, even this article is not explicit enough in all details, and
> requires a careful reading. The correspondences between Menominee and PA
> (and even more, between M and Cree) cannot be stated in a simple table like
> the one you show. For PA vowels, the easiest solution is to use Fox, which
> preserves them almost without change from PA (except word-initial *e-).
> Since Ives Goddard's dictionary has just been published, Fox data are now
> much more accessible than before.
>
> At the present moment I am working with my colleage Thomas Pellard on a
> program applying the sound laws from PA to Menominee (and the other way
> round), but it is needs a lot of debugging.
>
> Have a look at Hewson's dictionary for an updated list of PA finals:
>
> http://www.mun.ca/linguistics/people/faculty/protoalgonkian.php
>
> If you have a more detailed list of the finals you are interested in (with
> the verb conjugation AI/II/TA/TI, if possible, to avoid any
> misunderstandings), maybe we can have a look.
>
> Guillaume
>
>
>
> 2014-09-04 0:10 GMT+02:00 Sarah Lundquist <sjlundquist at wisc.edu>:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>>
>> My advisor Monica Macaulay and I are attempting to ascertain
>> correspondence for a set of vowels in Cree and Menominee.  In his "sketch,”
>> Bloomfield (1946) states that:
>>
>> PA *i & *ii split into Menominee i, ii and e, ee
>> PA *o & *oo split into Menominee u, uu and o, oo
>> PA *e split into M e and ae (what he writes with epsilon ɛ)
>> PA *ee became M long ae (a͞e, or ɛɛ)
>>
>> PA *i and *e merged to i in Cree
>>
>>
>>
>> I am working on a paper which relies upon a comparison of Cree and
>> Menominee AI finals.  Monica and I believe that following the information
>> above, the Cree/Menominee cognates for the finals should be as follows:
>>
>>  C       M
>> -ee     -a͞e
>> -o       -o
>> -aw     -aw
>> -isi      -isi/-ese/-aese (varies in Menominee)
>> -isii     -isii/-esii/ -aesii (ditto)
>> -in       -in/-en (ditto)
>> -i         -i/-e (ditto)
>> -ii        -ii/-ee (ditto)
>>
>>
>>
>> However, my knowledge of PA and phonological patterns across Algonquian
>> languages is very limited, and Monica has suggested that I check with
>> someone with more knowledge of the history of the languages than she has.
>> In general, the meanings of these finals do seem to correspond, but one of
>> the things that I’m looking at with them is the ways in which they *don’t*
>> correspond; so we can’t really use the meanings as a way to decide the
>> matter.  Would anyone be willing to lend us a hand in verifying that these
>> morphemes are cognate?  Any insight would be greatly appreciated.
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>
>> Sarah [image:
>> https://ssl.gstatic.com/ui/v1/icons/mail/images/cleardot.gif]
>>
>>
>> --
>> *Sarah Lundquist* │Project Assistant, UW-Madison Dept. of Linguistics
>> Linguistics Student Organization Co-President
>> TLAM Student Organization Outreach Coordinator
>> sjlundquist at wisc.edu
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Guillaume Jacques
> CNRS (CRLAO) - INALCO
> http://cnrs.academia.edu/GuillaumeJacques
> http://himalco.hypotheses.org/
> http://panchr.hypotheses.org/
>
>


-- 
*Sarah Lundquist* │Project Assistant, UW-Madison Dept. of Linguistics
Linguistics Student Organization Co-President
TLAM Student Organization Outreach Coordinator
sjlundquist at wisc.edu


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