[Algonquiana] Plant name request

[Goddard, Ives]

No one seems to be citing the Huron Smith ethnobotanies, or Bloomfield's use of the Menominee one in his lexicon.

Ives

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Thank you, Kevin.

Cuoq seems to be conflating two plants, Acorus calamus and Angelica atropurpurea. As noted earlier, Cuoq's term seems to apply in truth to Acorus calamus. Le mot pour la vraie belle-angelique parait avoir evite' les filets.

Best,

Michael


De : Kevin Brousseau [brousseau_kevin at yahoo.ca] Envoyé : 16 juillet 2016 21:31 À : McCafferty, Michael Lee Cc : Algonquian Conference List Objet : Re: [Algonquiana] Plant name request

Here’s Cuoq’s (1886) entry on p. 438:

"wikenj, …ak, belle-angélique- C’est l’acorus calamus des Botanistes, plante médicinale en grand renom parmi les Indiens d’Amérique.”

Wolvengrey lists the Cree cognate in his 2001 publication on page 243:

"wîhkês NI muskrat root, rat root, sweet-flag, water arum”

This word is also found in Faries’ edition of Watkins dictionary in 1928 on page 86:

"Ginger, n. Wekâsk. (But this name is also used of other roots, especially seneca).”

Kevin Brousseau



On Jul 16, 2016, at 4:51 PM, McCafferty, Michael Lee <mmccaffe at indiana.edu<mailto:mmccaffe at indiana.edu>> wrote:

Thanks much, Rich. I appreciate your thoughts.

Best regards,

Michael
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De : Richard RHODES [rrhodes at berkeley.edu<mailto:rrhodes at berkeley.edu>]
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Sorry, I confused the Eurasian angelica with the American angelica. I don't know that I ever saw American angelica on Walpole. The purple flower of the American angelica might account for the fact that Walpole Odawa can use wiikenh to mean 'iris'.

I suspect Baraga has the old usage.

Richard A. Rhodes
Department of Linguistics
University of California
Berkeley, CA 94720-2650

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On Jul 16, 2016, at 11:56, McCafferty, Michael Lee <mmccaffe at indiana.edu<mailto:mmccaffe at indiana.edu>> wrote:

Thank you, Rich, for writing.

I'm assuimg that you mean "introduced to the Walpole area," as Angelica atropurpurea is a native North American plant.

Michael
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De : Richard RHODES [rrhodes at berkeley.edu<mailto:rrhodes at berkeley.edu>]
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Both species are introduced plants, so both identifications (in clearly distinct dialects) could be right.

Richard A. Rhodes
Department of Linguistics
University of California
Berkeley, CA 94720-2650

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On Jul 16, 2016, at 11:17, McCafferty, Michael Lee <mmccaffe at indiana.edu<mailto:mmccaffe at indiana.edu>> wrote:

Baraga listed Ojibwe /wiikenh/ as "angelica root" (belle-angelique en francais), but Fiero informs me that, according to Rhodes, /wiihkenh/ is "sweet flag", /Acorus calamus/.

Michael
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Trying to find terms in the Eastern Great Lakes Algonquian languages (or "Central Algonquian" languages) for /Angelica atropurpurea/, known commonly as purplestem angelica, great angelica, American angelica, high angelica, and masterwort. Je crois qu'elle se nomme "angelique" en francais.

Thank you, Merci, migwec,

Michael McCafferty

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