[An-lang] etymology of Malayic "kasi" ('give')

[David Gil]

Bob,

Final glottal stops within the Malayic family is a huge topic that I've 
been working on intermittently for many years.  But it's such a mess 
that I would not dare to use it as a diagnostic for etymologies.

David


On 17/02/2015 07:00, Robert Blust wrote:
> Hi again David,
>
> So you must be assuming that /kasi/ was borrowed back into Malay from a
> language that regularly lost *-q.  If so, what is the likely source?
>
> For the etymology of Malay /kasih/ see PMP *qasiq and its subentry *ka-qasiq
> in the freely accessible ACD (www.trussel2.com/ACD).
>
> Best,
>
> Bob Blust
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Gil" <gil at eva.mpg.de>
> To: "Austronesian languages" <an-lang at anu.edu.au>
> Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2015 8:24 PM
> Subject: Re: [An-lang] etymology of Malayic "kasi" ('give')
>
>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> Many thanks for all of your suggestions, either to me personally or to
>> the list.  In fact, there was unanimity that the source of Malayic
>> "kasi" ('give') is in a similar word for 'love' or 'compassion'.  At
>> first I was not too convinced; it felt a little bit too much like a folk
>> etymology.  However, some of the later comments, with data from a wider
>> range of languages such as Onya Darat (Land Dayak, thanks to Uri Tadmor)
>> and Tae' (Torajan, thanks to Daniel Kaufman), provided evidence that
>> this is most probably the correct etymology.
>>
>> Again, thanks to you all for your comments,
>>
>> David
>>
>>
>>
>> On 07/02/2015 16:13, David Gil wrote:
>>> Dear Austronesianists,
>>>
>>> I am trying to find an etymology for Malayic "kasi" ('give').  Can
>>> anybody ...
>>>
>>> (1) point me to a previously proposed etymology for "kasi"?
>>> (2) suggest possible cognate forms in other (non-Malayic) Austronesian
>>> languages?
>>> (3) offer any other relevant thoughts and suggestions?
>>>
>>> So far I have not been able to find anything.  My current thinking is
>>> that "kasi" may be part of a complex of interrelated forms such as
>>> Standard Malay "ke" ('to'), "akan" (future, oblique), and "=kan"
>>> (causative, applicative), but this remains speculative.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> David
>>>
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>> David Gil
>>
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